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12:30 stockholmhat schon mal jemand ein paket in apt-proxy's cache durch ein anderes ersetzt und dann das Packages.gz neu gebaut damit es alte paket ersetzt?
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12:35 stockholmkann man einfach das Packages.gz editieren und die md5 etc summe ersetzen?
12:35 stockholmund den genauen namen?
12:43 lazyb0ystockholm: das klingt alles irgendwie ziemlich krank...
12:44 lazyb0y(koennte aber gehen)
12:44 lazyb0ywieso machst DU das Paket, was Du ersetzen willst, nicht in ein eigenes Repository, mit einer hoeheren versionsnummer?
12:50 stockholmdas hat schon eine höhere versionsnummer
12:50 stockholmlazyb0y: weil apt-proxy das schöne apt-proxy-import hat das pakete einfach in den cache importieren kann
12:51 stockholmes funktioniert tatsächlich. ich habe das aus apt-cache show apt grösstenteisl (ausser dem packetpfad) übernommen, weil auch die dependencies sich geändert haben
12:52 stockholmaber es wäre schöner wenn man gezieht mit apt-cache-import auch gleich packete in die packages.gz reinspleissen könnte.
13:40 oz_stockholm: naja...also mich würd schon interessiern, warum du nicht nen einfachereren weg gehst
14:24 stockholmoz_: ich möchte dass die anderen die den debmirror benutzen auch das apt automatisch mitinstallieren ohne dass sie ein neues repository hinzufügen müssen
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14:29 stockholmoz_: ich habe ca 30 benutzer hinter dem gleichen debmirror, die das auch kriegen sollen
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14:55 oz_stockholm: hm. /me is not convinced. ;)
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15:22 admindealerHello.. anybody alive here?
15:25 oz_*ping* read the topic - dont ask to ask, just ask
15:26 admindealeri have one doubt, i am newbie to fai and planning to use it in my work to install some debian servers, how do i do with dhcp server it needs, if in my network there is already other dhcp server?
15:28 oz_do you have admin access to this server?
15:31 admindealeryou mean to the fai server?
15:31 admindealeror to the dhcp server that already exists in the network?
15:32 oz_the dhcp server
15:33 admindealeryes
15:33 oz_just add the missing things to the dhcp config
15:34 admindealerer.. what do you mean by the missing things?
15:35 admindealerthe problem i see is that i would have two dhcp servers in the same network
15:35 admindealer(the one that already exists and the one that is installed in the fai server)
15:35 oz_no, just add the fai thingies to the existing server
15:35 oz_the fai server and the dhcp server are 2 different things
15:36 admindealeri know
15:36 admindealerbut i have them in the same machine
15:36 oz_no problem! :)
15:38 admindealermm
15:39 admindealerif i isolate my servers using a switch
15:39 admindealerand puting the server and the clients
15:39 admindealeri should change make-fai-nfsroot, fai.conf
15:40 admindealer./etc/exports and what else?
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15:54 kazamatzurihi
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16:06 kazamatzurido i have to active a certain switch in the config somewhere to stop a client from installing over and over?
16:06 kazamatzuris/active/activate/
16:07 oz_kazamatzuri: just boot from the localdisk?
16:08 kazamatzuriafter install, yes
16:08 kazamatzurii already set -o default
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16:15 oz_strange
16:15 kazamatzuriif i understood the documentation right, it will reboot if the reboot flag is set but installing again. to prevent this i'd have to manually set the boot to localboot with fai-chboot?
16:15 oz_no, there is no switch to do that
16:15 kazamatzuriisn't this supposed to do that automagically?
16:16 oz_depends on the BIOS settings, too
16:16 kazamatzurihm ok
16:16 kazamatzuriin the bios i set network only. that could be a problem
16:17 oz_many board can do a network boot by pressing F12 or F8 during BIOS init
16:17 oz_I set the defaul boot device to the HDD
16:17 kazamatzuribut shouldn't it recognize an already finished installation and do a localboot instead of recommencing installation?
16:17 oz_and I (or some co-admin) presses FX, if one want to do a fresh installation
16:18 kazamatzurihm ok. I thought it should to that on its own
16:18 oz_kazamatzuri: FAI cannot change BIOS settings
16:18 oz_.o0(yet?)
16:18 kazamatzurihehe
16:19 kazamatzurithe documenatation says in 5.9 that it should be booting from local hardisk automatically after installing
16:19 oz_in 5.9?
16:20 kazamatzuriif i change that in the bios settings, the client will never check the network boot again and i can't deploy updates to the running systems?
16:20 oz_kazamatzuri: you can tune grub to do a network boot, to
16:21 oz_and the also is some fai-softupdate
16:21 lazyb0ykazamatzuri: what does fai-chboot -l say for your host?
16:21 oz_both could be interesting to you
16:21 kazamatzurilazyb0y: install vmlinuz-install
16:22 lazyb0ysometimes, a broken ssh key setup leads to the problem, that fai-chboot cannot be called at the end of the install
16:22 lazyb0ythis seems to be the case for you
16:22 lazyb0yhas nothing to do with bios settings
16:22 kazamatzurilazyb0y: ah, ok that gives me some lead. grand
16:22 lazyb0ythe -o default only comes into play, if there is no other explicit boot config for your host
16:23 lazyb0ycan you ssh from the nfsroot to you fai server?
16:23 kazamatzurithe install-environments try to call fai-chboot on the server?
16:23 lazyb0ydo you have any logs of the installation on your fai server?
16:23 oz_lazyb0y: I never used fai-chboot, and BIOS does set the boot device, doesn't it?
16:24 kazamatzurii have the logs. but i think you're right. i guess the ssh-keys from the nfsroot should be authorized to run log into the server?
16:24 lazyb0yyes, after a successfull install, at the same time when logs are saved onto the logserver(which is most often the same as the fai server), fai calls fai-chboot to disable the install config for that host
16:24 lazyb0ythe pxe config file is then moved to <hexhostid>.diabled
16:24 kazamatzuriok super. thanks a lot, that seems to be the problem
16:25 lazyb0yoz_: it's in multiple places
16:25 lazyb0ythe bios is the first place where you tell your system from what to boot
16:26 lazyb0ybut in a pxe config (which is the stuff set up with fai-chboot), you can tell as system, once the biuos tries to boot it from the network card (or etherboot), that it should still use the local disk
16:26 lazyb0yor, point the system to a place where it can get a kernel and initrd via tftp
16:27 oz_lazyb0y: yes, that's also possible.
16:27 oz_so BIOS plays a role doesn't it?
16:28 kazamatzurilazyb0y: i hadn't had any ssh-keys setup for the nfsroot. i'm commencing a new installation now, but i seems logically that this was my mistake. thanks for the hint
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16:29 lazyb0yoz_: the current problem has nothing to do with BIOS settings.
16:29 lazyb0yif you never used fai-chboot, you should not talkk about it - unless you read it's docs, and played with it a bit
16:30 oz_hey, I'm just trying to help. In the beginning that wasn't clear.
16:31 oz_and I did not talk about it in the first place.
16:31 oz_you should stop flaming.
Action: oz_ will be quiet for a while
16:31 kazamatzuridon't get into a fight just about me  ;)
16:31 kazamatzurimaybe my question wasn't clearly enough, sorry for that
16:32 oz_kazamatzuri: don't mind. ;)
16:40 kazamatzuriah yeah, grand. it works now. i already feared i'd had to switch all of those manually (120 boxes in 3 rooms...)
16:44 lazyb0ykazamatzuri: did you now manually switch the stuff with fai-chboot? or was ist the ssh problem and you solved it?
16:45 kazamatzuriit was the ssh problem
16:45 kazamatzurii just created new keys, put them in nfsroot/root/.ssh and added them on the server to authorized...
16:46 kazamatzurinow i'm finally able to kick that damn rembo-toolkit outta the window
16:47 oz_cheers, kazamatzuri
17:09 lazyb0ykazamatzuri: wasn't rembo some stuff to install windows and deploy software? something like unattend and wnpp together?
17:09 kazamatzuriyup
17:09 kazamatzuriwe wrote a little mini-linux to deploy a gentoo setup as well
17:10 kazamatzuribut fai seemed worth a try
17:10 lazyb0yaha
17:11 lazyb0yso, you will install gentoo with FAI?
17:11 lazyb0yand windows?
17:12 lazyb0yor did you only modify rembo to just do the gentoo stuff, no interested in the windows stuff?
17:20 kazamatzuriwe had windows originally
17:20 kazamatzuribut during the semester we disabled it
17:20 kazamatzurino need for it anymore
17:21 kazamatzurithe only ones using windows are same basic math courses for teachers and those apps run quite fine in vmware
17:21 lazyb0ykazamatzuri: good news :)
17:21 kazamatzuriso we're able to get rid of that overhead.
17:22 kazamatzuriand i'm going to deploy a debian. to continue deploying gentoo, i wouldn't need to switch
17:23 lazyb0ykazamatzuri: only thing I'd still be interested in windows installations with fai is the goo ol' quest for world domination :) if evn windows is installed by FAI, we're quite next to that
17:23 kazamatzurihehe
17:23 lazyb0ykazamatzuri: it should not bee too hard to deploy gentoo with fai!
17:23 kazamatzurino, sure enough. but we wanna switch gentoo
17:24 kazamatzuriit's not excatly the easiest of a distribution and since i'm soon to be finished with my diploma, no one's gonna be there to support it anymore
17:24 kazamatzurithere a lot more debian guys out there
17:25 kazamatzuriand then, there's the troubles with the foundation of gentoo, too
17:25 lazyb0yand debian's better anyway :)
17:26 kazamatzuriit's not a question of better or worse. with  distributions nowadays it's just about taste ;)
17:26 kazamatzurijust like women, some like blonds, some like brunettes... ;)
17:27 lazyb0ymy interest in gentoo os also only related to the world dom stuff - i hate it since it's manual installer deleted all(about 5)  partitions with test installation of some distributions, because it didn't like the rescue partition on a thinkpad and sort of thought "hmm, I don't like the stuff on the end of the disk - so I better clean it up alltogether before doing anything else"
17:27 lazyb0yyes, and it depends on what you need...
17:28 kazamatzurigentoo's manual installer = user aka you ;)
17:28 kazamatzurii've never used an installer for gentoo.
17:28 lazyb0yI admin, there seem to be some guys doing good things with it :)
17:29 kazamatzuri:) it's just about taste. linux is linux, regardless of distribution ... ok, not talking about suse here ... *G
17:29 lazyb0yyes, I heard that already when telling the same story "what - you did start the curses setup script? nobody uses it, it's completely untested"
17:30 kazamatzurii prefer gentoo at my desktop, but debian for the servers (especially xen-boxes)
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19:58 alleefai 3.2.4 merge for hardy can't write to / .  mount output at http://paste.debian.net/49045   Anyone sees what's wrong?
20:04 alleemhmm, i can create new files in /etc/ and then modify them but not modify existing one ...
20:09 alleemore mhhm, in line 5,6  /live/{image,cow} is mounted and later in line 8 just /live  which should shadow the 2 mounts /life/* ... strange
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