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09:14 mikapMrfai:
09:14 mikap23:34 < mikap> how about support for aptitude safe-upgrade in /usr/lib/fai/updatebase? any objections?
09:14 mikap23:35 < mikap> if strings $target/usr/bin/aptitude | grep safe-upgrade ; .... => from one of my scripts in grml-live
09:14 mikapMrfai: regarding the deadline: I'd say within the next 1-2 weeks will be our stable release
09:15 mikapand I'm working on a "softupdate without updating software"-hook => something needed for maintaining dirinstall chroots; any suggestions regarding the name? confupdate?
09:20 Mrfaimikap: ok. I think I can release 3.2.2 today. Maybe in the late evening.
09:21 Mrfaimikap: can you give me a link to the whole script in grml-live that uses this strings..|grep stuff?
09:22 Mrfaimikap: confupdate is fine. You can make it a new task, or just skip the task_instsoft
09:28 Mrfaimikap: oh, I did not read properly. weeks, not days. So there's no need to release 3.2.2 today.
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09:51 mikapMrfai: jupp, end of week for example would be fine for me :)
09:51 mikapMrfai: -> "if [ -x $target/usr/bin/aptitude ] ; then" ff
10:24 MrfaiMrfai: thanks, I will have a lot into it. End of the week is also fine for me.
10:26 mikapMrfai: I assume you wanted to write that to me? ;)
10:27 mikapMrfai: I'd prepare patches for you, once for the safe-upgrade-feature and one for the confupdate - ok?
10:30 oz_Ha!
10:30 oz_und es gibt noch nen neuen erdenbürger von $freunden
10:30 oz_ups.
10:30 oz_wrong channel, sorry.
10:31 mikap8-)
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10:37 Mrfaimikap: safe-upgrade is easy. I think I can do this on my own
10:38 mikapMrfai: feel free :)
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12:17 antares> From:
12:17 antares> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:20:54 +0100
12:17 antares> To:
12:17 antares> Subject: RE: installation on local dsk after network installation
12:17 antares> CC:
12:17 antares>
12:17 antares> >>>>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:16:31 +0100, antares atlantide <> said:
12:17 antares>
12:17 antares>     >
12:17 antares>
12:17 antares> > find: /lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/kernel/drivers/ide: No such file or directory
12:17 antares> > FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/modules.dep: No such file or directory
12:17 antares> You kernel does not match to the modules inside the nfsroot.
12:17 antares> --
12:17 antares> regards Thomas
12:17 antaresI have correct but there is the same probleme
12:17 antaresThis is my system about network it running well but when the client machine reboot on disk there is nothing or no OS on local disk, somebody can give me the instruction to do the post-installation after the reboot of machine
12:17 antaresyou can see fai.log and shell.log
12:17 antares
12:20 MTsorry antares, but I cannot see anything going wrong
12:20 MTa kernel is installed, grub is installed
12:21 MTwhat exactly do you get when you boot the client after the installation?
12:21 MTthat is, what error message is there such that you say there is no os?
12:24 antaresoot@tlon:/boot/fai/atlantis# ls -l
12:24 antarestotal 8
12:24 antaresdrwxr-xr-x 2 fai root 4096 2007-11-19 12:09 install-20071119_110352
12:24 antareslrwxrwxrwx 1 fai root   23 2007-11-19 12:09 last -> install-20071119_110352
12:24 antareslrwxrwxrwx 1 fai root   23 2007-11-19 12:09 last-install -> install-20071119_110352
12:24 antaresroot@tlon:/srv/tftp/fai# ls -l
12:24 antarestotal 23808
12:24 antares-rw-r--r-- 1 fai  root   80542 2007-11-09 10:08 config-fai
12:24 antaresdrwxr-xr-x 3 fai  root    4096 2007-11-09 10:33 grub
12:24 antares-rw-r--r-- 1 fai  root 6995422 2007-11-09 10:08 initrd
12:24 antares-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5223267 2007-11-19 11:43 initrd.img-2.6.18-5-686
12:24 antares-rw-r--r-x 1 fai  root   13480 2007-11-19 11:43 pxelinux.0
12:24 antaresdrwxr-xr-x 2 fai  root    4096 2007-11-19 11:48 pxelinux.cfg
12:24 antares-rw-r--r-- 1 fai  root  810034 2007-11-09 10:08
12:25 antares-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1260158 2007-10-03 06:49 vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686
12:25 antaresroot@tlon:/srv/tftp/fai# cd pxelinux.cfg
12:25 antaresroot@tlon:/srv/tftp/fai/pxelinux.cfg# cat default
12:25 antares# generated by fai-chboot for host default with IP no IP
12:25 antaresdefault vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686
12:25 antareslabel vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686
12:25 antareskernel vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686
12:25 antares#append initrd=initrd ip=dhcp  root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot boot=live   FAI_ACTION=sysinfo
12:25 antaresappend initrd=initrd.img-2.6.18-5-686 ip=dhcp  FAI_ACTION=install root=/dev/nfs nfsroot= FAI_FLAGS=verbose,createvt,sshd
12:25 MTso ... what?
12:25 antaresi send MT the kernel which is installed
12:26 MTI only asked for the an error message ...
12:26 MT... the error message that is displayed once you boot the system
12:28 antaresthere is no error root@tlon:/boot/fai/atlantis# cat install-20071119_110352/error.log
12:28 antaresfai.log:mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/discover': Read-only file system
12:28 antaresfai.log:WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
12:28 antaresfai.log:Authentication warning overridden.
12:28 antaresfai.log:sed: can't read /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules: No such file or directory
12:28 antaresfai.log:WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
12:28 antaresfai.log:Authentication warning overridden.
12:28 antaressoftware.log:sed: can't read /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules: No such file or directory
12:28 antaressoftware.log:WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
12:28 antaressoftware.log:Authentication warning overridden.
12:28 antaresroot@tlon:/boot/fai/atlantis# cat install-20071119_110352/boot.log
12:28 antaresnetdevices_all="eth0
12:28 antareseth1"
12:28 antaresnetdevices_up="eth0"
12:28 antaresnetdevices="eth0"
12:28 antaresBROADCAST=''
12:28 antaresDNSSRVS=''
12:28 antaresDNSSRVS_1=''
12:28 antaresHOSTNAME='atlantis'
12:28 antaresIPADDR=''
12:28 antaresNETWORK=''
12:29 antaresNTPSRVS=''
12:29 antaresNTPSRVS_1=''
12:29 antaresGATEWAYS=''
12:29 antaresGATEWAYS_1=''
12:29 antaresSERVER='tlon'
12:29 antaresNETMASK=''
12:29 antaresTIMESRVS=''
12:29 antaresTIMESRVS_1=''
12:29 MTantares, I asked for the error that is shown once you boot your client AFTER the installation
12:35 h01gerantares, please use (more often)
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12:36 antaresMT , it is OK now , when i boot on hard ddisk i have on screen Logo Debian Linux version 2.6.18-5-486, the machine hostname atlantis, now where i will get login and the passwd i think that there are two users root and fai but i dont le passwords
12:37 MTah, cool
12:37 MTso you only have a single root user
12:37 MTthe password is fai
12:40 antaresWright think you very much i am going now to JRES2007 to strasbourg
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13:48 Mrfaimikap: grml-live line 66:  # FAI softupdate does not execute upgrade
13:48 MrfaiMmm. I'm sure softupdate calls task_updatebase, which calls aptitude dist-upgrade.
13:50 stockholmkan ich den nfs server der das rootfs serviert auch nicht mit ip sondern mit namen in die /etc/exports schreiben?
13:50 stockholmalso so?
13:50 stockholm/srv/fai/config fai/,ro,no_subtree_check)
13:50 stockholm/srv/fai/nfsroot fai/,ro,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash)
13:56 h01gerja
13:56 Mrfaihab ich noch nie probiert
13:57 Mrfaipass nur auf, wenn dein rechner zwei hostnamen und zwei NIC's hat.
13:58 Mrfaioder ein hostname und zwei NIC's. Wo exportiert er dann hin?
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13:59 kustranhello
14:02 kustranMrfai: when I boot with nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot then system was looping, when I change nfsroot to /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/ then stop looping, nfs-premount was done, nfs-bootom was done, init-bootom stops with: mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or...
14:02 kustranand system in panic: /init: 175: cannot open/root/dev/console ...
14:03 kustranany sugestion?
14:04 Mrfaiuse nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot. The other choice is definitely wrong.
14:04 Mrfaiit will _never_ work!
14:05 kustranwith  nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot looping ...
14:07 kustranI check - nfsroot was mounted, but script want mount this share again and again ...
14:07 h01gerkustran, which fai version? which debian version?
14:09 kustranfai 3.2.1, debian testing
Action: h01ger notes most people still use etch and 3.2.1 - and so do i. lenny is a bit different (kernel, udev, live-initramfs)
14:15 h01gerkustran, you could add "-x" to the "#/bin/bash" line of /usr/sbin/fai
14:16 h01gerno
14:16 h01geryour problem is earlier
14:16 kustranbooting from PXE works
14:16 kustranfrom cd with nfsroot - no
14:18 kustrani try boot from cd with root=/dev/nfs and nfsroot=/.....
14:18 kustranbecouse not all my terminal have bootprom
14:19 kustrancan I create any script with sleep XX beetwen IP-Config and nfsroot?
14:21 kustranI have msg.: mount Device or resource busy - yes, it's true, becouse nfsroot WAS mounted to /root and second mount to this point is not available...
14:21 kustranbecause
14:24 Mrfaikustran: this is a special live-initramfs problem. I'm sure the debian-live guy can help you. Ask on channel #debian-live at oftc
14:24 Mrfaiand if it's fixed, tell us how to fix it :-)
14:24 kustranis this possible to use other package - not live-initramfs?
14:25 Mrfaiuse live-initramfs and ask those guys. That's the easiest way.
14:26 kustranok, thx
14:28 h01gerthey're really helpful :)
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16:15 lazyb0ykustran: do you have unionfs in the kernel and initrd you use for booting?
16:42 kustranin which kernel?
16:43 kustranin nfsroot?
16:43 kustranit's standard kernel, not recompiled
16:45 kustranwhat path must be in $rootmnt parameter?
16:45 kustranI see that in initrd
16:46 kustranin /srcipts/nfs
16:46 kustran /scripts/nfs
16:47 Mrfaikustran: ask the debian-live people. They are the expoerts for this.
16:48 kustranok... i think nfsmount point is bad ...
16:48 kustranbecause i see msg: could find /sbin/init, nfsroot is mounted to /root
16:49 kustranbut in /root i see live/filesystem.dir
17:01 lazyb0yMrfai: but if he doesn't know if unionfs and the stuff needed in the kernel is even there, he doesn't need to go to the live people.
17:02 lazyb0ywe should be able to tell how that works, first
17:02 lazyb0yBTW, I started a wiki page about that, but it's still incomplete
17:02 lazyb0yand I don't know what is needed and how exactly it is done for non-xen installs
17:03 lazyb0ykustran: still, in general, the kernel and initrd you are booting for your install, they need the unionfs support
17:09 kustranyhm...
17:10 MrfaiI think a list of question for checking possible errors would be nice. So people could self themself what they did not the way we propose. Example
17:10 MrfaiWhich FAI version are you using? default answer should be 3.2.1
17:10 MrfaiWhich kernel version? should be 2.6.16, plain Debian kernel
17:10 MrfaiDo you have live-initramfs installed into your nfsroot? Hope so
17:11 MrfaiAnd so on.
17:11 MrfaiThis sort of questionnaire may also help us to help the people, without asking all thos things again and again.
17:12 MrfaiWe only need to say: did you check all questions on our problem questionnaire? Please past your to ....
17:12 MrfaiThat would be nice.
17:13 lazyb0yMrfai: questions are nice, but also a little step-by-step howto what to to to get the new FAIU riunning (especially if you are used to older versions) whould be somewhere.
17:13 MrfaiAdditional help could be the command how to check those things we would ask.
17:15 Mrfailazyb0y: My impression is that we have some howtos (or the whole fai guide) but people tend to do things in other ways, not the way our howto would describe it. Then people have a lot of problems and asking us for help.
17:15 lazyb0yyes, that's things in the stable versions.
17:16 lazyb0yhere, you are introducing quite a lot of changes, which are mentioned in the NEWS file, but there is no clear way, how people are supposed to work now, and how they can test the new version
17:16 lazyb0yand, for people used to FAI, it's a bit too much I think to expect them reading the whole fai guide every month again
17:18 kustranhuh, i try tommorow install fai-server from cd on virtual pc and start work with terminal
17:19 kustranthanks :)
17:19 kustran & by
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17:19 lazyb0yMrfai: I think we are discussing way too long about a simple thing - I started this some days ago:
17:19 lazyb0y
17:20 lazyb0yit would be just nice (and help people testing the beta stuff) if you'd just add the things I don't know/forgot
17:20 lazyb0ythat is probably only 3 lines...
17:20 lazyb0yAt the end, it could also end in the checklist you propose...
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