[00:55] Lin (~igor@189.25.167.47) joined #fai. [00:59] Lin (~igor@189.25.167.47) left irc: [04:17] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) got netsplit. [04:17] rcy (~rcy@209.90.176.252) got netsplit. [04:17] juri_ (vzWXs8dpim@volumehost.com) got netsplit. [04:26] juri_ (LU8T9JEgH4@volumehost.com) joined #fai. [04:26] i-R2D2 (~deed@sud.globenet.org) joined #fai. [04:28] rcy (~rcy@209.90.176.252) got lost in the net-split. [06:25] rcy (~rcy@209.90.176.252) joined #fai. [07:48] i-R2D2 (~deed@sud.globenet.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [08:07] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [08:15] itais (~itais@62.81.119.138.static.user.ono.com) joined #fai. [08:26] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) joined #fai. [08:37] samson (~samson@194.8.222.126) joined #fai. [09:14] Mrfai: [09:14] 23:34 < mikap> how about support for aptitude safe-upgrade in /usr/lib/fai/updatebase? any objections? [09:14] 23:35 < mikap> if strings $target/usr/bin/aptitude | grep safe-upgrade ; .... => from one of my scripts in grml-live [09:14] Mrfai: regarding the deadline: I'd say within the next 1-2 weeks will be our stable release [09:15] and I'm working on a "softupdate without updating software"-hook => something needed for maintaining dirinstall chroots; any suggestions regarding the name? confupdate? [09:20] mikap: ok. I think I can release 3.2.2 today. Maybe in the late evening. [09:21] mikap: can you give me a link to the whole script in grml-live that uses this strings..|grep stuff? [09:22] mikap: confupdate is fine. You can make it a new task, or just skip the task_instsoft [09:28] mikap: oh, I did not read properly. weeks, not days. So there's no need to release 3.2.2 today. [09:45] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [09:51] Mrfai: jupp, end of week for example would be fine for me :) [09:51] Mrfai: http://hg.grml.org/grml-live/file/5fbac9527d70/etc/grml/fai/config/hooks/instsoft.GRMLBASE -> "if [ -x $target/usr/bin/aptitude ] ; then" ff [10:24] Mrfai: thanks, I will have a lot into it. End of the week is also fine for me. [10:26] Mrfai: I assume you wanted to write that to me? ;) [10:27] Mrfai: I'd prepare patches for you, once for the safe-upgrade-feature and one for the confupdate - ok? [10:30] Ha! [10:30] und es gibt noch nen neuen erdenbürger von $freunden [10:30] ups. [10:30] wrong channel, sorry. [10:31] 8-) [10:33] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [10:37] mikap: safe-upgrade is easy. I think I can do this on my own [10:38] Mrfai: feel free :) [10:49] antares (~antares@mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr) joined #fai. [11:11] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [11:44] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [11:47] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [11:51] antares (antares@mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr) left #fai (Kopete 0.12.2 : http://kopete.kde.org). [12:01] antares (~antares@mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr) joined #fai. [12:07] samson (samson@194.8.222.126) left #fai. [12:17] > From: lange@informatik.uni-koeln.de [12:17] > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:20:54 +0100 [12:17] > To: linux-fai@uni-koeln.de [12:17] > Subject: RE: installation on local dsk after network installation [12:17] > CC: [12:17] > [12:17] > >>>>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:16:31 +0100, antares atlantide said: [12:17] > [12:17] > > http://paste.debian.net/42501 [12:17] > [12:17] > > find: /lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/kernel/drivers/ide: No such file or directory [12:17] > > FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.22-3-686/modules.dep: No such file or directory [12:17] > You kernel does not match to the modules inside the nfsroot. [12:17] > -- [12:17] > regards Thomas [12:17] I have correct but there is the same probleme [12:17] This is my system about network it running well but when the client machine reboot on disk there is nothing or no OS on local disk, somebody can give me the instruction to do the post-installation after the reboot of machine [12:17] you can see fai.log and shell.log [12:17] http://paste.debian.net/42873 [12:20] sorry antares, but I cannot see anything going wrong [12:20] a kernel is installed, grub is installed [12:21] what exactly do you get when you boot the client after the installation? [12:21] that is, what error message is there such that you say there is no os? [12:24] oot@tlon:/boot/fai/atlantis# ls -l [12:24] total 8 [12:24] drwxr-xr-x 2 fai root 4096 2007-11-19 12:09 install-20071119_110352 [12:24] lrwxrwxrwx 1 fai root 23 2007-11-19 12:09 last -> install-20071119_110352 [12:24] lrwxrwxrwx 1 fai root 23 2007-11-19 12:09 last-install -> install-20071119_110352 [12:24] root@tlon:/srv/tftp/fai# ls -l [12:24] total 23808 [12:24] -rw-r--r-- 1 fai root 80542 2007-11-09 10:08 config-fai [12:24] drwxr-xr-x 3 fai root 4096 2007-11-09 10:33 grub [12:24] -rw-r--r-- 1 fai root 6995422 2007-11-09 10:08 initrd [12:24] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5223267 2007-11-19 11:43 initrd.img-2.6.18-5-686 [12:24] -rw-r--r-x 1 fai root 13480 2007-11-19 11:43 pxelinux.0 [12:24] drwxr-xr-x 2 fai root 4096 2007-11-19 11:48 pxelinux.cfg [12:24] -rw-r--r-- 1 fai root 810034 2007-11-09 10:08 System.map [12:25] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1260158 2007-10-03 06:49 vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686 [12:25] root@tlon:/srv/tftp/fai# cd pxelinux.cfg [12:25] root@tlon:/srv/tftp/fai/pxelinux.cfg# cat default [12:25] # generated by fai-chboot for host default with IP no IP [12:25] default vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686 [12:25] label vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686 [12:25] kernel vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686 [12:25] #append initrd=initrd ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot boot=live FAI_ACTION=sysinfo [12:25] append initrd=initrd.img-2.6.18-5-686 ip=dhcp FAI_ACTION=install root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=10.10.0.143:/srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/ FAI_FLAGS=verbose,createvt,sshd [12:25] so ... what? [12:25] i send MT the kernel which is installed [12:26] I only asked for the an error message ... [12:26] ... the error message that is displayed once you boot the system [12:28] there is no error root@tlon:/boot/fai/atlantis# cat install-20071119_110352/error.log [12:28] fai.log:mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/discover': Read-only file system [12:28] fai.log:WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! [12:28] fai.log:Authentication warning overridden. [12:28] fai.log:sed: can't read /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules: No such file or directory [12:28] fai.log:WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! [12:28] fai.log:Authentication warning overridden. [12:28] software.log:sed: can't read /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules: No such file or directory [12:28] software.log:WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! [12:28] software.log:Authentication warning overridden. [12:28] root@tlon:/boot/fai/atlantis# cat install-20071119_110352/boot.log [12:28] netdevices_all="eth0 [12:28] eth1" [12:28] netdevices_up="eth0" [12:28] netdevices="eth0" [12:28] BROADCAST='10.10.255.255' [12:28] DNSSRVS='10.10.0.11' [12:28] DNSSRVS_1='10.10.0.11' [12:28] HOSTNAME='atlantis' [12:28] IPADDR='10.10.0.131' [12:28] NETWORK='10.10.0.0' [12:29] NTPSRVS='10.10.0.11' [12:29] NTPSRVS_1='10.10.0.11' [12:29] GATEWAYS='10.10.0.1' [12:29] GATEWAYS_1='10.10.0.1' [12:29] SERVER='tlon' [12:29] NETMASK='255.255.0.0' [12:29] TIMESRVS='10.10.0.11' [12:29] TIMESRVS_1='10.10.0.11' [12:29] antares, I asked for the error that is shown once you boot your client AFTER the installation [12:35] antares, please use paste.debian.net (more often) [12:36] meandtheshel1 (~sa@85.127.115.173) joined #fai. [12:36] MT , it is OK now , when i boot on hard ddisk i have on screen Logo Debian Linux version 2.6.18-5-486, the machine hostname atlantis, now where i will get login and the passwd i think that there are two users root and fai but i dont le passwords [12:37] ah, cool [12:37] so you only have a single root user [12:37] the password is fai [12:40] Wright think you very much i am going now to JRES2007 to strasbourg [12:47] antares (antares@mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr) left #fai (Kopete 0.12.2 : http://kopete.kde.org). [12:52] CXO_Tobi (~CXO_Tobi@195.122.130.2) left irc: Quit: CXO_Tobi [13:30] itais (~itais@62.81.119.138.static.user.ono.com) left irc: Quit: See you [13:41] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [13:48] mikap: grml-live line 66: # FAI softupdate does not execute upgrade [13:48] Mmm. I'm sure softupdate calls task_updatebase, which calls aptitude dist-upgrade. [13:50] kan ich den nfs server der das rootfs serviert auch nicht mit ip sondern mit namen in die /etc/exports schreiben? [13:50] also so? [13:50] /srv/fai/config fai/255.255.255.0(async,ro,no_subtree_check) [13:50] /srv/fai/nfsroot fai/255.255.255.0(async,ro,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) [13:56] ja [13:56] hab ich noch nie probiert [13:57] pass nur auf, wenn dein rechner zwei hostnamen und zwei NIC's hat. [13:58] oder ein hostname und zwei NIC's. Wo exportiert er dann hin? [13:59] kustran (~kustran@amq178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) joined #fai. [13:59] hello [14:02] Mrfai: when I boot with nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot then system was looping, when I change nfsroot to /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/ then stop looping, nfs-premount was done, nfs-bootom was done, init-bootom stops with: mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or... [14:02] and system in panic: /init: 175: cannot open/root/dev/console ... [14:03] any sugestion? [14:04] use nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot. The other choice is definitely wrong. [14:04] it will _never_ work! [14:05] with nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot looping ... [14:07] I check - nfsroot was mounted, but script want mount this share again and again ... [14:07] kustran, which fai version? which debian version? [14:09] fai 3.2.1, debian testing [14:12] Action: h01ger notes most people still use etch and 3.2.1 - and so do i. lenny is a bit different (kernel, udev, live-initramfs) [14:15] kustran, you could add "-x" to the "#/bin/bash" line of /usr/sbin/fai [14:16] no [14:16] your problem is earlier [14:16] booting from PXE works [14:16] from cd with nfsroot - no [14:18] i try boot from cd with root=/dev/nfs and nfsroot=/..... [14:18] becouse not all my terminal have bootprom [14:19] can I create any script with sleep XX beetwen IP-Config and nfsroot? [14:21] I have msg.: mount Device or resource busy - yes, it's true, becouse nfsroot WAS mounted to /root and second mount to this point is not available... [14:21] because [14:24] kustran: this is a special live-initramfs problem. I'm sure the debian-live guy can help you. Ask on channel #debian-live at oftc [14:24] and if it's fixed, tell us how to fix it :-) [14:24] is this possible to use other package - not live-initramfs? [14:25] use live-initramfs and ask those guys. That's the easiest way. [14:26] ok, thx [14:28] they're really helpful :) [15:22] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [15:53] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [16:15] kustran: do you have unionfs in the kernel and initrd you use for booting? [16:42] in which kernel? [16:43] in nfsroot? [16:43] it's standard kernel, not recompiled [16:45] what path must be in $rootmnt parameter? [16:45] I see that in initrd [16:46] in /srcipts/nfs [16:46] /scripts/nfs [16:47] kustran: ask the debian-live people. They are the expoerts for this. [16:48] ok... i think nfsmount point is bad ... [16:48] because i see msg: could find /sbin/init, nfsroot is mounted to /root [16:49] but in /root i see live/filesystem.dir [17:01] Mrfai: but if he doesn't know if unionfs and the stuff needed in the kernel is even there, he doesn't need to go to the live people. [17:02] we should be able to tell how that works, first [17:02] BTW, I started a wiki page about that, but it's still incomplete [17:02] and I don't know what is needed and how exactly it is done for non-xen installs [17:03] kustran: still, in general, the kernel and initrd you are booting for your install, they need the unionfs support [17:09] yhm... [17:10] I think a list of question for checking possible errors would be nice. So people could self themself what they did not the way we propose. Example [17:10] Which FAI version are you using? default answer should be 3.2.1 [17:10] Which kernel version? should be 2.6.16, plain Debian kernel [17:10] Do you have live-initramfs installed into your nfsroot? Hope so [17:11] And so on. [17:11] This sort of questionnaire may also help us to help the people, without asking all thos things again and again. [17:12] We only need to say: did you check all questions on our problem questionnaire? Please past your to .... [17:12] That would be nice. [17:13] Mrfai: questions are nice, but also a little step-by-step howto what to to to get the new FAIU riunning (especially if you are used to older versions) whould be somewhere. [17:13] Additional help could be the command how to check those things we would ask. [17:15] lazyb0y: My impression is that we have some howtos (or the whole fai guide) but people tend to do things in other ways, not the way our howto would describe it. Then people have a lot of problems and asking us for help. [17:15] yes, that's things in the stable versions. [17:16] here, you are introducing quite a lot of changes, which are mentioned in the NEWS file, but there is no clear way, how people are supposed to work now, and how they can test the new version [17:16] and, for people used to FAI, it's a bit too much I think to expect them reading the whole fai guide every month again [17:18] huh, i try tommorow install fai-server from cd on virtual pc and start work with terminal [17:19] thanks :) [17:19] & by [17:19] kustran (kustran@amq178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) left #fai. [17:19] Mrfai: I think we are discussing way too long about a simple thing - I started this some days ago: [17:19] http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/FAI_3.2_Usage_Changes [17:20] it would be just nice (and help people testing the beta stuff) if you'd just add the things I don't know/forgot [17:20] that is probably only 3 lines... [17:20] At the end, it could also end in the checklist you propose... [18:38] Mrfai (~lange@kueppers.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [18:51] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:52] stockholm (~andreas@petrus.schuldei.org) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:53] stockholm (~andreas@petrus.schuldei.org) joined #fai. [20:41] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [20:43] meandtheshel1 (~sa@85.127.115.173) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [21:01] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [21:13] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [22:02] i-R2D2 (~deed@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net) joined #fai. [23:03] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [00:00] --- Tue Nov 20 2007