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00:01 sobersabrehi.
00:01 sobersabrehow can I clean IBM Secure Data Disposal tool ?
00:01 sobersabreIs it just something written in the MBR ?
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08:37 oz_moinzenz
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09:23 Bluemoon_moin moin
09:33 Bokehmorning
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10:02 kasimonhello :)
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10:18 kasimonis there any workaround for setup_harddisks iff "sfdisk -g" returns no sensible data for the drive?
10:23 sepskikasimon, you can try setup_harddisks_2
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10:33 su[]morgen
10:34 su[]ich habe da ein scheinbar größeres problem mit meiner fai 3.2.1 installation, die will nicht, wie ich will
10:47 kasimonsepski: I'll have a look at it
10:48 kasimonbtw is this channel german or englisch?
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11:05 lazyb0y_su[]: und?
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11:13 su[]wenn ich den client booten möchte, scheint alles zu klappen, bis zum prcopyleft
11:13 su[]das kommt eine fehlermeldung: cannot create temp file for here document: read-only file system
11:14 su[]und dannach kommen einige "No such file or directory" Meldungen
11:16 su[]dann kommt "Calling task_action" und "No action in $FAI_ACTION defined."
11:20 h01gersu[], hast du fai-nfsroot in nfsroot installiert? ist der configspace auf dem client verfuegbar?
11:21 su[]un  fai            <none>         (no description available)
11:21 su[]ii  fai-client     3.2.1          Fully Automatic Installation client package
11:21 su[]ii  fai-nfsroot    3.2.1          Fully Automatic Installation nfsroot package
11:21 su[]^^ das ist im nfsroot installiert
11:21 su[]das nfsroot wurde von fai-setup gebaut, da habe ich nichts weiter gamcht
11:23 sepskikasimon, both, but i only understad the english part
11:29 h01gersu[], und ist live-initramfs im nfsroot installiert?
11:30 su[]h01ger: ja, sollten die pakete nicht alle von make-fai-nfsroot installiert worden sein ?
11:33 su[]ich komme an den client auch gar nicht dran, es scheint eine so frühe phase zu sein, wo er stoppt, das weder ssh noch irgendeine lokale console da ist
11:34 h01gerschau im nfsroot nach
11:34 h01german chroot
11:35 su[]ja, ich mache ein chroot /srv/fai/nfsroot und da gucke ich dann nach
11:43 su[]vielleicht noch wichtig, ich boote den host von cd
12:41 Mrfaikasimon: --force. But what is the exact problem? Any error messages?
12:42 Mrfaikasimon: I mean you can add --force to the sfdisk call. Problems woth the geometry?
12:42 Mrfaisu[]: bau mit make-fai-nfsroot -v nochmals die nfsroot und paste ds log file auf paste.debian.net
12:42 kasimonMrfai: yes. sfdisk -g returns no geometry, causing a division by zero later in setup_harddisks
12:43 Bokehi'm wondering... if i set xserver-xorg    xserver-xorg/autodetect_video_card      boolean true in debconf can i still set xserver-xorg    xserver-xorg/config/device/driver       nvidia later on in that same debconf file?
12:43 kasimonMrfai: I already nailed it down to our (2.6.18) fai kernel, with the stock debian 4.0 kernel sfdisk returns correct geometry for the cciss raid controller
12:43 Bokehfor some reason dpkg still seems to think my quadro fx needs vesa'
12:44 kasimonso I'll try out 3.2.1 and see whether the problem prevails.
12:51 MrfaiBokeh: set it to false and nvidia.
12:52 Mrfaikasimon: With fai 3.2.1 you should use the stock Debian kernel whenever possible. There's no need for a special fai kernel in FAI >=3.2
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12:53 Bokehok, if i set videocard autodetect to false it should only affect xserver-xorg/config/device/driver and xserver-xorg/config/device/identifier if i'm right?
12:56 kasimonMrfai: jupp, that's the reason we consider to upgrade fai
13:02 MrfaiBokeh: I don't know. IIRC I call dexconf again later. Let me check
13:03 Bokehhehe, don't worry about it, i'm just messing abouts a bit
13:03 Bokehi don't really have too much experience with fai and debconf, i'd usually configure my systems by copying over /etc files after the installation
13:04 MrfaiBokeh: no, currently I do not call dexconf again. That was in the past. For me autodetection of the driver  works fine. I only set the resolution and frequencies
13:04 Bokehok
13:05 Bokehresolutions are detected properly here, just not the driver. think it might have something to do with the fact that they're quadro fx cards, the ubuntu installation didn't autodetect them either
13:05 Bokehshouldn't be a problem, i'll just read out the values with debconf-show and put them in fai manually
13:23 su[]Mrfai: http://paste.debian.net/41809 <-- da isses
13:31 Mrfaisu[]: das sieht sehr gut aus.
13:32 Mrfainun mit fai-chboot den eintrag zum booten des clients erzeugen
13:33 Mrfaiam einfachsten fai-chboot -IFv yourclientname
13:42 su[]ok, der bekommt seine ip aber fix, nicht per dhcp
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13:53 Mrfaivon welchem medium bootest du?
13:54 su[]ich boote mit einer cd, die mit make-fai-bootfloppy erzeugt wurde
13:55 Bokehargh
13:55 Bokehwth
13:55 Bokehnow debconf decides my driver should be "apm:
13:55 Mrfaisu[]: dann hast du aber keinen kernel mit initrd auf der CD. Das brauchst du aber fuer 3.2.1
13:55 su[]ah, ok - gibt es da einen ausweg ?
13:58 Mrfaija. DAs einfachste zur Zeit ist, eine normale fai-cd zu machen, der mirror kann ruhig ein leeres verzeichnis sein. das /etc/fai/menu.lst kannst du dann so abaendern, das er die nfsroot via NFS holt und nicht die von der CD nimmt.
13:58 MrfaiWir muessen make-fai-bootfloppy erweitern, das es auch kernel mit initrd verarbeitet, oder dies in das fai-cd script einbauen.
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14:19 su[]Mrfai:  ok, damit bin ich dann auch weiter ... jetzt bootet er wenigstens mal :-)
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14:25 sobersab1ehi
14:25 sobersab1ehm... moment
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14:27 Bokehpffft
14:27 Bokehwhat is up with certain people in #ubuntu being jackasses.
14:27 Bokehit feels just like i timewarped back to #debian in 1998
14:30 stockholmBokeh: check out #debian and tell me how it feels, please
14:30 Bokehlol
14:30 Bokehi don't dare talking there :D
14:31 Bokehhmmm
14:31 stockholmBokeh: if you do, tell me please :-)
14:31 Bokehok, found one cause of my problem: apparently xserver-xorg gets configured before linux-restricted-modules or nvidia-glx gets installed
14:31 sobersabreok. I have a wierd setup of fai-chboot for the machines I ran fai-chboot -I for
14:31 Bokehand as such debconf can't select the nvidia drivers
14:32 Bokehis there a way to tell fai to install certain packages before others?
14:32 sobersabreIs there a "Default" template I can make that fai-chboot -I will use on the rest of the machines from it ?
14:32 Bokehyeah, i think you can
14:32 Bokeh1 second
14:32 Bokehoh, wait
14:32 Bokehyou don't want to use the default tftp boot right?
14:33 Bokehotherwise i think the only way to do so would be to make a script that goes over all your machines
14:34 Bokehsomething like for i in machine1 machine2 machine3 machine4; do fai-chboot -I -f blah; done
14:34 sobersabrehm.
14:34 Bokehthen again
14:34 sobersabrethere's fai-chboot -c
14:34 Bokehdo you have all your machines booting from pxe all the time?
14:34 Bokehotherwise you could just copy one machine's tftp file to a file named "default" in the same directory
14:34 sobersabreBokeh: I found my solution.
14:34 sobersabrefai-chboot -c
14:34 Bokehand that would be the default file to use when pxebooting
14:34 Bokehah, ok :)
14:35 sobersabrethanks for the attempt
14:35 Bokehhehe, nps
14:37 sobersabreand it even works...
14:38 Bokehgz :)
14:40 siretartBokeh: #ubuntu-motu is a much friendlier place, however limited to no end-user support there, please
14:41 Bokehcheers
14:41 Bokehit's a bit of a shame
14:41 Bokehi remember #ubuntu when warty was just out
14:42 Bokehand people swore that it'd actually be a useful channel
14:42 Bokehwhere people would do support and help people instead of talking politics and treating everyone who knew less than you with utmost disgust
14:44 siretartBokeh: I know some ops in #ubuntu, and they are really helpful. However also pretty busy :)
14:44 Bokehyeah, might be
14:45 Bokehbut still, i'm asking a serious question about why debconf would pick the apm driver for xorg over nvidia, even though nvidia is set in the preseed, including a pastebin url for the debconf output and the preseed, and the first response you get is "<xxxxxx> Bokeh: than read the log files to find out why"
14:45 siretartBokeh: if you need support, you might want to try the support tracker in launchpad. it has been useful at least to me in the past
14:46 Bokehyeah, then again, launchpad is not really for questions, more for bug reports
14:46 siretartI'm sorry to disagree, launchpad does both
14:46 Bokehoh, ok
14:46 Bokehi've always seen launchpad as more of a bugtracking system
14:46 siretartsee https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
14:46 Bokehah, didn't know that one yet
14:47 siretartor rather https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
14:47 Bokehthough, still, if i was a newbie to ubuntu and i had a simple question about something which is trivial to more experienced users (say for example getting alsa to work properly or installing codexes for mplayer)
14:48 siretartBokeh: then I'd point you to https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+addquestion
14:48 Bokehand i'd see an ops (or someone else with a reasonable status) talking down to someone like that, i'd actually be discouraged to ask anything
14:49 Bokehyeah, but you get what i'm pointing at :)
14:49 siretartsure
14:50 Bokehbleh, debconf still won't select the nvidia driver... it seems that nvidia-glx is getting installed after xserver-xorg-base for some reason
14:50 Bokehbrb
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15:24 su[]ok, und jetzt noch eine kleinigkeit sicherlich: fai erstellt mir keine xfs partitionen (xfsprogs und xfsdump) liegen aber beide im nfsroot
15:26 Mrfaisu[]: fehlermeldung? format.log gelesen?
15:27 su[]keine, er erstellt stattdessen ext2 partitionen
15:27 Mrfaidann les mal format.log
15:28 Mrfaioder paste es auf paste.debian.net
15:28 su[]http://paste.debian.net/41818 <-- das ist die disk_config
15:29 Mrfaibist du dir sicher, das diese auch genutzt wird?
15:31 Bokehsu[]: kunnen sie eine xfs partition machen wenn sie in der nfsroot sind?
15:32 Bokehmit mkfs.xfs /dev/sdax ?
15:34 su[]argh, der nimmt ja die einstellungen aus dem config-space auf der cd, kann man das nicht ändern ?
15:34 Bokehhmm
15:34 Bokehweis ich nicht, ich brauche nur pxe
15:43 Mrfaisu[]: klar kann man das aendern. Was sagt den cat /proc/cmdline?
15:51 su[]Mrfai: ich komme morgen darauf zurück ... ich muss grad los ... melde mich dann wieder
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18:20 stockholmh01ger: ja, bist du
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