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09:11 Bokehyawn
09:11 Bokehmorning
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09:37 lazyb0y_mfl: sounds like a very interesting feature - would mind filing a wishlist report?
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10:05 Mrfaimfl: currently it's only possible by defining a negated class. So if you have a class FOO, also define a class NOTFOO, which is only defined if FOO is not defined. But please file a wishlist bug.
10:32 mflMrfai: ok, that's what i already did... :)
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10:35 mfllazyb0y_,Mrfai: i'll file a wishlist bug as soon as my installations run...  thanks!
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14:01 Bluemoon_moin moin
14:03 Bluemoon_ich habe hier ein problem mit dhcp, wenn ich einen fai-client boote und er soll per dhcp eine ip bekommen, so geht das nicht, wenn ich aber im selben rechner eine grml-cd boote so bekomme ich mit dieser eine ip ueber den dhcp-server
14:03 Bluemoon_was koennte das denn sein?
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14:51 Mrfaidirekt beim PXE boot oder spaeter wenn der kernel schon gebootet hat? Welche Netzwerkkarte? Die die NEtzwerkkarte auf PXE eingestellt?
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15:00 Bluemoon_Mrfai, PXE nicht, ich boote per floppy
15:01 Bluemoon_also wenn der kernel versucht eine IP zu bekommen
15:24 Mrfaiaber die netzwerkkarte ist aktiviert?
15:29 Bluemoon_jepp
15:29 Bluemoon_es geht ueber ein dhcp-relay, kann das vielleicht der grund sein?
15:30 Bluemoon_das komische ist, das der dhcp-server ein offer schickt und dieses auch ankommt
15:30 Bluemoon_nur wird es nicht vom fai-client angenommen
15:30 Mrfainatuerlich. Aber du solltest ja im log sehen ob die dhcp request ueberhaupt nakommen
15:30 Mrfaiok
15:31 Mrfaiwas fuer eine floppy? etherboot, rom-o-matic?
15:31 Bluemoon_eine mit make-fai-bootfloppy erstellte
15:31 Bluemoon_also iso-image
15:32 Bluemoon_s/also/als/
15:33 Mrfaiprobier doch mal eine mit rom-o-matic erstellt. Dann hast du ganz normales PXE.
15:34 Bluemoon_ich kann hier leider kein pxe nutzen weil hier schon so ein ZEN-netware PXE rumschwirrt
15:40 Mrfaidoof. Dann soll das ZEN PXE einfach ruhig sein wenn dein Rechner PXE macht.
15:44 Bluemoon_das sage ich ja auch immer meinen netware-kollegen aber die meinen, dass sie diesen crap brauchen :)
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16:09 Jahmanhi
16:11 Jahmani have a little problem with nfs. When the client boot, the script nfs-premount failed(message mount Device or resource busy). On my nfs server, i have the following log message: Nov  7 17:05:04 dpt72 mountd[5561]: refused unmount request from 192.168.0.20 for /root (/): not exported
16:12 Jahmanwhy the client attempt to unmount /root on the server ?
16:26 Jahmanokay it was my  nfsroot variable in my pxeconfig.cfg/default. I need set up it by /media/stock/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/ and not just /media/stock/fai/nfsroot/
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17:10 lazyb0y_Bluemoon_: ich hatte mal sonen effekt, als ich mit einem kernel, der auf ip_pnp_auto konfiguriert ist(oder iwe das heit, also dhcp auf kernel-ebene), dass er nur offers von authoritative dhcp's angenommen hat - das sah da auch so aus, wie du es beschreibst.
17:11 lazyb0y_ich weiss nicht, ob es schon in fai 3.2 geht, eine bootfloppy zu machen - da dort ein normaler kernel ohne diese option genutzt wird, sollte das da nicht passieren
17:37 h01gerbootfloppies werden in 3.2.1 gearnicht mehr unterstützt. etherboot
17:37 h01gerrom-o-matic.net
17:37 h01gersteht im wiki
17:37 Mrfaih01ger: hatten wir schon. Er kann kein PXE nutzen
17:40 h01geraxo
17:49 Bluemoon_re
17:50 Bluemoon_lazyb0y_, ja, das scheint echt am kernel-dhcp zu liegen
17:50 Bluemoon_ein gebootetes grml in der selben VM macht dhcp ohne probleme
18:03 MrfaiBluemoon_: kannst du von CD booten? Dann koenntest du den kernel mit initrd von CD booten.
18:04 Bluemoon_von cd kann ich booten, fuer diese rechner habe ich aber noch fai 3.1
18:05 Bluemoon_fai 3.2 habe ich erst auf einer testbox
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19:11 sobersabrehi guys.
19:11 sobersabrewhat can cause the machine to fail to unzip/untar the base.tgz file ?
19:12 sobersabreand suddenly loose the FAI server..
19:12 sobersabreIt's a LAN.
19:12 sobersabrealthough mixed speeds etc., but still a lan.
19:13 sobersabrethe partitioning succeeds, but after that the machine fails on extracting base.tgz ( if I am not wrong ) I am not at the machine now.
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19:31 lazyb0y_ich habe schon mehrmals rom-o-matic getestet, und es hat nie geklappt.
19:48 Mrfaisobersabre: check the cables. read fai.log. Any error messages?
19:48 sobersabreI can connect to the machines. nothing suspicious.
19:48 Mrfaican you ping them?
19:48 sobersabreis it possible that the kernel gets pushed, but the base.tgz is stuck with "bad cables" thing ?
19:48 sobersabreI can ping them.
19:49 Mrfaiping them with larger packets
19:49 sobersabrehmm.
19:49 sobersabre:)
19:49 sobersabreok
19:49 sobersabredoing it.
19:49 sobersabremoment.
19:50 MTwhat about ssh?
19:52 Mrfaigood idea. can you ssh to them?
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19:54 sobersabreI can ssh
19:54 sobersabreI can read log.
19:55 sobersabrepings pass.
19:55 MTanything useful in the logs?
19:55 MTwhat if you do the base extraction manually?
19:55 sobersabreI tried -s 65507
19:55 sobersabreMT: where is it located ?
19:56 MTthe base or the logs?
19:56 sobersabreand another one: can you md5 your base.tgz ?
19:56 sobersabrethe base
19:56 sobersabreI know where logs are.
19:57 sobersabreit says /var/tmp/base.tgz
19:57 MTthe base is /var/tmp/base.tgz
19:57 sobersabre1b97d98974df6962a141ba21c1c0d972  base.tgz
19:57 sobersabrecan you compare to your md5sum ?
19:57 MTwhich FAI version, which distribution?
19:58 MTI think it's highly unlikely that there are any similar base.tgz around
19:58 MTwith the same md5sum
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20:00 Mrfaisobersabre: IMO it makes no sense to compare md5 of base.tgz. They will differ.
20:00 Mrfaiany error messages in fai.log or from dmesg?
20:01 Mrfaicall top and see if a process is running
20:01 Mrfaiduring extracting the base
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20:07 sobersabremoment.
20:07 sobersabrethere's one strange thing.
20:07 sobersabreI remember that in the <hex IP without dots> files I have no mentioning of UDP.
20:08 sobersabrebut the booting system somehow has an nfs mount via UDP, with wierd options.
20:08 sobersabrehow come this can happen ?
20:08 Mrfaitcp for NFS mounts is better
20:08 Mrfaisobersabre: gbit LAN?
20:08 MTcheck your tftpd logs to find out which file it used for booting
20:08 sobersabreMrfai, it's a mix of 100 and 1000 links.
20:09 MTgbit/100mbit won't work properly for NFS-over-udp
20:09 sobersabrethis leaves not many choices but to use TCP.
20:09 Mrfaigbit LAN and NFS over UDP may cause problems
20:09 MT:-)
20:09 sobersabreit cause.
20:09 MrfaiMT: 100mbit is fine, gbit can cause problems
20:10 sobersabreanyway, I wonder WHY I have seen udp
20:10 sobersabreanyway.
20:10 sobersabrestrangeness continues:
20:10 sobersabreuptime:
20:10 MTbut mixing them hardly works at all
20:10 sobersabre23:01:51 up  5:53,  1 user,  load average: 1.00, 0.97, 0.91
20:10 sobersabresomething is definetely fishy.
20:10 MTis it maybe still pulling base.tgz?
20:11 sobersabre/dev/root on / type nfs (rw,vers=2,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,nolock,proto=udp,timeo=11,retrans=2,sec=sys,addr=132.68.206.225)
20:11 sobersabreWHY udp ?!?!
20:11 sobersabreI don't understand this.
20:11 MTcat /proc/cmdline ?
20:12 sobersabrelast line is "Extracting /var/tmp/base.tgz"
20:13 sobersabreip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot FAI_FLAGS=verbose,sshd,createvt FAI_ACTION=install BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz-install
20:13 MTthat might all be solved by solving this udp issue
20:14 sobersabrefound it.
20:14 sobersabrefor some reason there are 4 machines with this above line.
20:14 sobersabrebut the rest ( normal ) are:
20:14 sobersabrevmlinuz-install ip=dhcp  root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot,v3,tcp,intr FAI_FLAGS=verbose,sshd,createvt FAI_ACTION=install
20:15 sobersabreas you can see, tcp, intr and v3 are specifically put.
20:15 sobersabrehm.
20:15 sobersabreI hate gremlins.
20:15 sobersabreAt least I know there are some.
20:15 MTare you damn sure it has found an appropriate config file
20:16 Mrfaisome versions of fai-chboot set tcp and v3, the newer version does not need it any more, since newer kernel and kernel with initrd automatically uses v3 and tcp
20:16 MT(and did not use some default config)
20:16 sobersabreI user fai-chboot -I for the rest.
20:16 sobersabres/user/used/
20:16 sobersabrewierdo one.
20:17 sobersabrewhat does "boot=live" mean ?
20:17 sobersabreI remember removing it for some reason.
20:18 MTthat's required for live-initramfs
20:18 MTassuming you are consistently using FAI >= 3.2
20:19 MT(including an NFSROOT generated by FAI >= 3.2)
20:19 sobersabreI am using fai-kernels 1.17, and the rest is 3.2.1
20:19 sobersabreNFSROOT generated with 3.2.1
20:20 MTFAI 3.2.1 doesn't really like fai-kernels anymore I think
20:20 MTyou should be using a standard kernel
20:20 sobersabrehm...
20:20 sobersabreshall I remove the package ?
20:20 MThmm, no idea, Mrfai?
20:21 sobersabrehow can I point fai to use standard kernel ?
20:21 sobersabreshall I remove and run fai-setup ?
20:21 MTIt will do so by default
20:21 Mrfaiif you have FAI 3.2.1 on your install server, you will only need to rebuild your nfsroot (fai-setup) which also copies the plain kernel with initrd to your tftp directory
20:21 sobersabreok.
20:21 MTmake-fai-nfsroot will do
20:22 Mrfairight make-fai-nfsroot will copy the kernel and initrd
20:22 sobersabreok. I will try this. hoping for the best.
20:22 Mrfaisave your old nfsroot
20:22 Mrfaibefore doing this
20:22 Mrfaiand use -v
20:24 sobersabreok.
20:24 sobersabreI have no sentiments for the old nfsroot though.
20:24 sobersabre:)
20:46 sobersabrehmm
20:46 sobersabregot this one:
20:46 sobersabrechroot: cannot run command `update-initramfs': No such file or directory
20:47 sobersabrewhere have I sinned ?!
20:47 stockholmsobersabre: you know that very well!
20:47 Mrfaipaste your log of make-fai-nfsroot to paste.debian.net
20:47 stockholmsobersabre: repent!
21:10 sobersabreyou mean the output of make-fai-nfsroot -v ?
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21:16 Mrfai_yep
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21:53 sobersabrehttp://paste.debian.net/41736
21:55 sobersabreMrfai, have you got it ?
Action: Mrfai reading it
21:55 sobersabreomg...
21:56 sobersabremaybe this is a "blank" error. i.e. everything seems ok, but I am getting a heart attack from "aborting" etc.
21:56 Mrfaino, things are missing
21:57 MThmm, no linux-image ...
21:57 Mrfaino package linux-image... is installed
21:57 Mrfai:-)
21:57 MT:-)
21:57 Mrfai2 seconds too late ;-)
21:58 MTsobersabre, which hardware architecture is this?
21:58 sobersabreinstall_packages: executing chroot /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir dpkg -C
21:58 sobersabreinstall_packages: executing chroot /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir apt-get clean
21:58 sobersabrechroot: cannot run command `update-initramfs': No such file or directory
21:58 sobersabreintel, I use 686 intel kernel.
21:59 sobersabrehmm... what a flooder.
21:59 MTMrfai, how does make-fai-nfsroot know whether it should use I386, AMD64, etc
21:59 sobersabreI guess uname -m
21:59 sobersabreit doesn't know much about the clients.
22:00 MTsobersabre: could you do chroot /srv/fai/nfsroot dpkg --print-installation-architecture
22:00 MTplease
22:00 sobersabreI will moment.
22:00 sobersabreMrfai, I am adding:
22:00 sobersabrelinux-image-2.6.18-5-686
22:01 sobersabreto the line:
22:01 sobersabrePACKAGES install I386
22:01 sobersabreI mean after that line, after lilo, grub etc.
22:01 sobersabreI this seems ok?
22:01 Mrfaisobersabre: /etc/fai/NFSROOT should already contain the name of the linux-image package
22:02 sobersabrewell, somehow it doesn't
22:02 Mrfaiuse the original /etc/fai/NFSROOT from the package.
22:02 sobersabremaybe I shall rerun fai-setup ?
22:02 Mrfaino
22:02 MrfaiI think do did an upgrade from FAI 3.1 to 3.2 and did not use the new /etc/fai/NFSROOT.
22:02 Mrfaiyou are still usingthe old version of NFSROOT
22:03 MTsobersabre, would you mind pasting /etc/fai/NFSROOT ?
22:03 sobersabrehmm... talent. that's what I call talent
22:03 sobersabreMrfai,  you're correct, as usual.
22:03 sobersabreshall I simply replace with stock NFSROOT ?
22:04 Mrfaididn't the upgrade asked you which version to use?
22:04 sobersabreI am usually conservative about this :)
22:04 sobersabre1st time I get it on the bad side
22:04 Mrfaiok, that was your fault.
22:04 Mrfaiyes just use the stock new one
22:04 sobersabreI have never blamed anyone esle, except gremlins.
22:04 sobersabre:)
22:04 MTdid you do any changes to the old NFSROOT file?
22:05 MT-> you might want to merge them
22:05 MTbut most probably the stock version is just fine
22:05 sobersabrenow I tried to do, I will now replace. but I want 686 kernel.
22:05 sobersabrenot 486
22:05 sobersabreany advantage to 486 ?
22:05 sobersabreI have no 486 machines.
22:06 Mrfaiyou do not need 686 kernel during installtion.
22:06 Mrfaithis is the kernel for installtion only. You may ewant to adjust /srv/fai/config/package_config/...
22:06 Mrfaithere you define the kernel for your new system
22:06 sobersabrethis I have done already.
22:07 Mrfaisobersabre: I hope to get the FAI questionnaire from you after you've installed with your new FAI version.
22:07 sobersabreanyway, the annotying thing:
22:08 sobersabremake-fai-nfsroot -v 2>&1 > output.txt
22:08 sobersabreand it still somehow prints something on stdout
22:08 MTI think you should do make-fai-nfsroot -v > output.txt 2>&1
22:08 sobersabreshall I  ( make-fai-nfsroot -v ) 2>&1 > output.txt ?
22:08 sobersabrehmm..
22:09 sobersabreI guess you're right. but ... why doesn't the other way work ? the effect seems to be the same... ( to me )
22:10 sobersabreI mean seems to have been supposedly
22:10 Mrfaisobersabre: that's shell magic
22:10 sobersabreI wrote a shell that didn't mind that.
22:10 sobersabre:)
22:10 sobersabreI remember discussing this with the partner...
22:10 sobersabreconvincing him: "but bash already works like that!"
22:11 MTNote  that  the order of redirections is significant.  For example, the
22:11 MT       command
22:11 MT              ls > dirlist 2>&1
22:11 MT       directs both standard output and standard error to  the  file  dirlist,
22:11 MT       while the command
22:11 MT              ls 2>&1 > dirlist
22:11 MT       directs  only the standard output to file dirlist, because the standard
22:11 MT       error was duplicated as standard output before the standard output  was
22:11 MT       redirected to dirlist.
22:11 MTman bash
22:12 sobersabreyep
22:14 sobersabreMT: http://paste.debian.net/41742 my old NFSROOT
22:15 MThmm, I think you had added (at least) subversion-tools build-essential
22:15 sobersabretru
22:15 sobersabrebut that was before I've added that to classes.
22:16 sobersabrethe results:
22:16 sobersabredpkg --print-installation-architecture
22:16 sobersabrei386
22:16 sobersabreafter chroot to /srv/fai/nfsroot
22:17 MTok, I guess that's all fine once you use the new NFSROOT file
22:18 sobersabrerunning now.
22:18 sobersabrewill see what's going on then.
22:32 sobersabrewhich key is used to sign fai packages ?
22:33 Mrfaimy key: AB9B66FD
22:33 Mrfaiwhy?
22:34 sobersabreI think I don't have it... checking.
22:37 sobersabrewhich keyserver has it ?
22:39 sobersabreok. found it :)
22:44 sobersabrethe saga continues, though:
22:44 sobersabrehttp://paste.debian.net/41745
22:44 sobersabrenow some destination is missing.
22:45 sobersabrecan somebody look at this ?
22:45 MTah, that one is well known
22:45 MTmom
22:45 sobersabremoment then.
22:46 MTyou need to update make-fai-nfsroot.conf as well
22:46 MTyou are missing the TFTPROOT variable
22:47 sobersabreok
22:47 sobersabreI know it's value though
22:47 sobersabre:)
22:47 sobersabreThanks!!!
22:50 sobersabreDanke sch?n.
22:50 sobersabreWhy do I actually need: FAI_DEBOOTSTRAP="etch http://ftp.debian.org/debian"
22:50 sobersabre?
22:50 MT:-)
22:51 sobersabreI have local mirror.
22:51 MTotherwise make-fai-nfsroot wouldn't know how to call debootstrap
22:51 MTthen feel free to put the local mirror there
22:51 MT(I think)
22:51 sobersabreI'll do that.
22:59 MTI'll get to bed, good luck sobersabre!
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23:08 sobersabrethanks all
23:08 sobersabre:)
23:10 sobersabreschlaf gut, treum s?ss  
23:10 sobersabrebyebye
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