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08:28 siretarthm. has someone a suggestion why the nfsroot hasn't ata_piix loaded, but only ata_generic?
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08:55 Mrfaialso ata_piix ist auf jeden Fall in der initrd drin. Hab ich gerade nochmals nachgesehen
08:58 MrfaiWenn die hardwareerkennung innerhalb der initrd die modul nicht laed, kann man dies forcieren
08:58 Mrfaieinfach die module in /srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/etc/initramfs-tools/modules
08:59 h01germoin moin
08:59 Mrfaireinschreiben und die initrd neu bauen und nach /srv/tftp/fai kopieren
08:59 h01gerMrfai, danke fuers akzeptieren des git-patches. schau mir den svn-bug nachher mal an...
09:02 Mrfaih01ger: das waere super.
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10:12 siretartaaah, neueres live-initramfs hat geholfen
10:13 Mrfaisiretart: welche version nutzt du jetzt?
10:16 siretartMrfai: die svn trunk version (also 3.2.1)
10:17 siretartaber ich stelle grad fest dass ich noch fai-client 3.1 benutze.. muss eh nochmal neu installieren, diesmal mit richtig
10:17 Mrfainein, welche live-initramfs version nutzt du?
10:17 siretartlive-initramfs_1.99.2-1.dsc
10:17 siretartmit der tuts
10:18 Mrfaiok, muss ich auch mal bald updaten
10:30 siretartUsing local path /proj/fai/config
10:30 siretartWARNING: directory /var/lib/fai/config/class not found.
10:30 siretartmein config space wird per nfs in /proj/fai/config verwaltet, was per nfs freigegeben wird
10:31 siretartmuss ich das von hand nach /var/lib/fai/config/class kopieren?
10:31 siretartoder soll ich die variable FAI= auf /proj/fai/config setzen?
10:32 Mrfaidu kannst ei per NFS gemountetes verzeichnis nicht wieder per NFS exportieren. KAnn es das sein?
10:33 MrfaiAnsonsten sollte das NFS mounten autom. gehen, wenn FAI_CONFIG_SRC ordentlich gesetzt ist.
10:33 MrfaiNicht nach /var/lib/fai/config kopieren, das sollte ja gerade per NFS gehen
10:36 siretartnaja
10:36 siretartmit nfs:// funktioniert das schon
10:37 siretartich dachte mir nur, weil ich /proj eh schon exportiere und freigebe, dass ich mir dann einen extra mount sparen kann
10:37 siretartaber dann halt so
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11:56 siretartgmrpf
11:56 lazyb0yWe can make a developers meeting from 9th to 11th november at the linuxhotel!
11:56 siretartfai 3.2.1 mountet mir /proc nicht im nfsroot :/
Action: lazyb0y will create a wiki page in the course of today for the particpants and write to fai-devel!
12:01 lazyb0yMrfai: die bedingungen sind jetzt allerdings: http://www.linuxhotel.de/community.html
12:01 lazyb0ywaere also gut, wenn wir einen Sponsor bekommen koennten. ich werde mal bei silpion fragen.
12:07 siretartwer mountet im nfsroot eigentlich /proc?
12:07 siretartlive-initramfs?
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12:26 siretartMrfai:     echo "The $FAI_ACTION took $[$(cut -d . -f 1 /proc/uptime)-$start_seconds] seconds."
12:27 siretartMrfai: ^^ diese zeile (258 in /usr/lib/fai/subroutines-linux) macht bei mir einen 'syntax error: operand expected (error token is "-")'
12:27 siretarthi allee
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12:29 alleehey, hi siretart!!
12:30 alleeabove ^^ /bin/sh script with bashism?
12:30 siretartno, it is already called with /bin/bash
12:37 alleesiretart: sure?  Here it fails with /bin/sh, works with /bin/bash
12:37 siretartfaui49:/srv/fai/nfsroot/live/filesystem.dir/usr# head -1 sbin/fai
12:37 siretart#!/bin/bash
12:38 alleesiretart: does not help when it's sourced
12:38 alleeach@allee(0) ~ $ /bin/sh -c '"The $FAI_ACTION took $[$(cut -d . -f 1 /proc/uptime)-$start_seconds] seconds."'
12:38 allee/bin/sh: The  took $[3094-] seconds.: not found
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12:38 allee^^ forget wrong test ...
12:39 siretartallee: very good point. /me checks
12:39 siretartyes, it is indeed sourced
12:39 alleeach@allee(1) ~ $ start_seconds=100 /bin/sh -c 'echo "The $FAI_ACTION took $[$(cut -d . -f 1 /proc/uptime)-$start_seconds] seconds."'
12:39 alleeThe  took $[3182-100] seconds.
12:39 alleeach@allee(0) ~ $ start_seconds=100 /bin/bash -c 'echo "The $FAI_ACTION took $[$(cut -d . -f 1 /proc/uptime)-$start_seconds] seconds."'
12:39 alleeThe  took 3089 seconds.
12:40 alleeHere a version that works with dash:
12:40 alleestart_seconds=100 /bin/sh -c '"The $FAI_ACTION took $(expr $(cut -d . -f 1 /proc/uptime) - $start_seconds) seconds."'
12:40 alleeexpr is from coreutils.  So should be there
12:40 siretartcool. will try that
12:41 alleeone need space around the '-'.  
12:43 siretartanother fai run, lets see if it helps now
12:53 Mrfaisince /usr/sbin/fai is /bin/bash also the subroutines should be bash when sourced.
12:53 siretartdas sollte man annehmen...
12:54 Mrfaioh, es ist innerhalb von echo. Vielleicht ist das der Unterschied. Probier mal vorher die substraction auszufuehren, das ergebnis einer variabeln zuweisen und diese dann im echo zu benutzen
12:55 siretartallee hat doch ne dash kompatble version gegeben mit expr. warum nicht einfach die nehmen?
12:55 Mrfailazyb0y: OK. Ich kann auch noch Firmen ansprechen. Bin aber naechste Woche in Zuerich
12:55 alleenee das sollte es nicht ein.  String expansion macht auch die shell.   fai start other progs that source subroutines/?
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13:11 lazyb0yMrfai: is ja noch ein bisschen hin! die wiki seite und den aufruf zur anmeldung mache ich aber schonmal fertig!
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13:14 Mrfailazyb0y: ok. Bitte mit Hinweis das an FAI gearbeitet werden soll. Also schon mal klar machen, das es etwas ernster zugehen soll.
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13:26 lazyb0yMrfai: ja, siehe extra mail!
13:27 Mrfaiich habe die Mails noch micht bekommen (nur die alte, die du mir nochamls geschickt hast). Ich muss also warten....
13:28 lazyb0yMrfai: die meine ich ja - das muss fr heute erstmal reichen :)
13:46 Mrfaiok, hab genug zu tun und zu lesen.
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15:00 lazyb0ywhat could be the reason fai wants to save logfiles to host with ip 1.2.3.4?
15:01 lazyb0yI see this is the variable $SERVER, but wonder, if this is wrong at the end, how can the whole install run at all? (and it did run, and looks wuite well apart of saving logs)
15:05 MrfaiI search in the whoile FAI sources. 1.2.3.4 is never used as IP addresses.
15:06 Mrfailazyb0y: An installation from CD?
15:07 lazyb0yno, a xen vm with a standard kernel
15:12 lazyb0yMrfai: you fixed the bug 391659 with the comment:
15:12 lazyb0y grab error codes when executing commands,
15:12 lazyb0y     exit with 3 when errors occured, add option -H (closes: #391659),
15:12 lazyb0ybut this bug is about missing documentation of the new install methids available - are you sure this bug is fixed?
15:17 lazyb0ychecked that: at least in the fai.guide on the web there are no new install methods documented
15:20 Mrfaithe fai-guide on the web is not yet up-to-date. Check the svn trunk.
15:20 Mrfainow install_packages can tell you (using 0H) which install methods are available
15:20 Mrfaiusing -H
15:20 Mrfaithis is better (and more up-to-date) than changing the documentation.
15:21 MrfaiFrom the fai guide (in trunk):
15:21 MrfaiThe list of all
15:21 Mrfaiavailable commands can be listed using <tt>install_packages -H</tt>.
15:21 MrfaiSupported package tools are: <tt>aptitude, apt-get, smart, y2pmsh,
15:21 Mrfaiyast, yum, urpm, rpm</tt>
15:22 lazyb0yMrfai: as normally people don't call install_:packages manually, this is now still very hidden. Nobody will find that on his own
15:22 lazyb0yif possible, in the fai-guide it should be written, that the user should run install_packages -H
15:23 Mrfaiit is written in the fai guide
15:23 lazyb0yerm, yes, I read completely only after replying :)
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15:28 Mrfainever mind.
15:31 lazyb0yhmm, about the 1.2.3.4 problem: this is what the client - this is what fai is saying at start of install:
15:31 lazyb0yKernel parameters:  ip=:1.2.3.4::::eth0:dhcp root=/dev/nfs FAI_ACTION=install FAI_FLAGS=verbose,sshd,syslogd,createvt
15:32 lazyb0ythe actual ip config is corrected later by the initrd scripts, and even the faiserver address is set correctly at some place, but the 1.2.3.4 sticks in the SERVER variable...
15:33 Mrfaithen 1.2.3.4 is in your dhcp.conf or menu.lst. Maybe an old version of FAI includes those "default
15:33 Mrfai"default" parameters
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15:35 lazyb0ymenu.lst? I don't boot via grub - I do network boot with initrd
15:35 lazyb0yguess it has something to with xen's booting...
15:36 lazyb0ybut can I set LOGSERVER=$installserver in fai.conf - would that work?
15:36 lazyb0yand, most important: would that work dynamically at install time?
15:37 Mrfaithe variable $istallserver was used in old FAI version (maybe up to FAI 2.8). It's removed since long time.
15:37 MrfaiLOGSERVEr can now be defined in class/*.var
15:37 Mrfaidynamicly and depending on classes is now supported.
15:37 MrfaiHAve a look at the table of variables in the faiwiki
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15:38 lazyb0yMrfai: took it from the table, but didn't look at the very right, where the "removed" is
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15:38 lazyb0yMrfai: last I said: took it from the table, but didn't look at the very right, where the "removed" is
15:39 lazyb0yMrfai: I think it's confusing to have old variables in the same tale as the ones currently used - can I fix this?
15:43 lazyb0yhmm, very strange, how can an install run at all if SERVER is 1.2.3.4 - this should be the variable that defines from which hos the configspace is mounted?!
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16:01 siretartMrfai: lazyb0y und allee haben grad von launchpad die mail bekommen, ich hab grad um ausnahme fuer fai 3.2.1 gebeten :)
16:04 alleesiretart: cool.  Mail not here yet.  Bug #?  Or is it in svn?
16:05 siretart#139637
16:05 alleethx
16:06 alleesiretart: sources in svn?
16:06 siretartallee: und ich bin immer noch am ueberlegen ob wir nicht doch ein lp team aufmachen sollten um fai backports packete direkter und einfacher zu bekommen/pflegen
16:06 siretartallee: haettest du lust, zeit und interesse bei sowas mitzumachen?
16:06 siretartachso, das lp team waer fuer das PPA
16:06 alleesiretart: klar.  
16:07 siretarthm. ok. dann waeren wir 3. ich kuemmer mich dann heut abend drum, ok?
16:09 alleeokay.  Prima. Ich schau heute nach noch mal rein, und lade die  deb/src runter ;)
16:09 alleebis spaeter dann.  Muss jetzt erstmal Sohnemann abholen und mich der Familie widmen ...
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16:17 Mrfailazyb0y: I want to keep the old variables, so people can see that those variables were removed, not only that I forgot them
16:18 Mrfaisiretart: was ist ein lp team? Eine mobile eingreiftruppe? Sonderkommando?
16:19 Mrfaisiretart: soll ich fai 3.2.1 dann bald releasen, oder wirst du einfach die Sachen aus dem svn trunk nehmen? Wie gesagt, ich koennte so bis zum 26/27 September releasen. Reicht das fue rdich?
16:28 siretartMrfai: lp == launchpad
16:28 siretartuuh, 26/27 ist mir fast a weng spaet, ich wuerd dann ggf dinge aus dem trunk nehmen
16:29 lazyb0yMrfai: I don't want to remove them, but put tem in an extra table, saying big and red "OLD" , it's confusing as it is now
16:31 siretartMrfai: ich stell mir etwas in der art wie das hier vor: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-burning - nur nicht fuer cdbrenndinge, sondern eben fuer fai
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16:31 siretart(man beachte den link 'show personal package archive' links im portlet
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17:20 Mrfaisiretart: ich schau mal ob ich es bis montag schaffe.
17:21 Mrfailazyb0y: extra table is ok, wenn auf der gleichen seite im wiki. Also ohne das man nochmals klicken muss
17:22 lazyb0ygenau so hab ich es vor :)
17:24 lazyb0yich habe immer noch keine ahnung, warum $SERVER falsch ist, und wie man es richtig fuellen koennte - es geht nicht sofort schief, weil ich den configspace aus dem svn geholt hae die ganze zeit...
17:24 lazyb0ylogs schreibe ich jetzt erstmal, indem ich LOGSERVER hard coded reinschreibe...
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17:38 siretartMrfai: danke dir!
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17:57 lazyb0yargh, da geht noch mehr schief.... ich habe kein interfecas file, while auch IPADDR leer ist...
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18:40 lazyb0yah! when using a non fai-kernel kernel, but booting with initrd which contains a dhcp client, then fai approach to set ip variables form kernel commandline is pretty much useless!
18:41 lazyb0yor it has to do with xen that the kernel commandline is crippled...
18:46 MrfaiI think also live-initramfs has some minor flaws with ip= parameters
18:51 lazyb0yMrfai: I'm still on 3.1.8 (rebuilding my local infrastructire from scratch with stable software only)
18:52 lazyb0ymaybe it's some of the initram-scripts - I don't know, what is respnsible for setting /proc/cmdline?
18:53 lazyb0yif it's kernel code, verxy soon at boot time, then it might not be wrong - if it's intentionally, that the ip parameters, are set from a dhcp client script, the kernel does not set useful values...
18:53 lazyb0ythen we are wrong assuming we can parse ip parameters from /proc/cmdline
18:54 lazyb0y(I'm working on a workaround - any other idea for getting network config data instead of grepping and cutting through ifoncfig outpout?
18:57 Mrfaithe normal fai 3.1.8 does not use initramfs.
18:58 Mrfai/proc/cmdline is set by the kernel. The info comes from the boot loader
19:01 lazyb0yok, I'm booting in an illegal way :)
19:02 lazyb0ybut I just realize - this is bullshit anyway - if I want ti set ip statically, I can do it with fcopy, if it should be dynamic, I just use dhcp...
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