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08:31 h01gerBarryAllen, can you chroot into your nfsroot and do "dpkg -l fai-client"?
08:32 h01gerBarryAllen, cause i see this in /usr/bin/setup_harddiscs: BuildfstabLine("proc","/proc","proc","rw,nosuid,noexec",0,0);
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09:02 eartoastmoin
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09:03 eartoastdo we need the available-checks in install_packages also when using aptitude? or does aptitude ignore non-existent packages?
09:06 Mrfaiavalable-checks are only used for apt-get
09:06 eartoasti know
09:06 Mrfaiimpossible for aptitude. Think of aptitude install ~nlinux
09:07 eartoastoh sh*t
09:07 eartoastis there any option for aptitude to ignore non-existent packages then?
09:08 eartoastthe filter makes updates to new releases a whole lot easier...
09:08 Mrfaifile a bugfreport tp apt. IMO checking for bad package names should be included into the apt library
09:09 eartoastwell, it somehow is there... apt-get emits an error message that a package does not exist ;)
09:09 eartoastthe single thing needed
09:09 eartoastwould be to make these errors non-fatal
09:09 eartoast;)
09:09 Mrfaiyep.
09:10 MrfaiIMO adding an option to ignore bad package names (and not exit with fatal) would be perfect
09:17 h01gerMrfai: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/Debian2DebianEdu
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11:16 mikaphttp://paste.grml.org/47 - is that a problem for me or is that "OK"? (using mkdebmirror)
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11:31 Mrfaimikap: sha1sum command missing? Or maybe the debian mirror you mirror from is bad
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11:34 mikapMrfai: hi :) /usr/bin/sha1sum is available, I'm using the default => ftp.de.debian.org
11:34 mikap# du -sh /grml/debian_mirror/*
11:34 mikap31M     /grml/debian_mirror/debian
11:34 mikap589M    /grml/debian_mirror/debian-security
11:34 mikap-> I assume the debian-directory should be bigger, nor? :)
11:34 mikap(the script is still running, currently for debian-security)
11:35 Mrfaior you have found a real good compression ;-)
11:35 mikap*gggg*
11:35 mikapso let's say debian-security-mirroring finishes: what next could I do?
11:35 Mrfaijust start the script again.
11:35 Mrfaiand try mkdebmirror -v
11:36 mikapok, waiting for debin-sec to finish, will try then - thx!
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11:54 BarryAllennhi all,
11:56 BarryAllennh01ger: hi, good morning (here, at least) :). Had you the oportunity to talk with thomas about that error? (proc)
11:57 Mrfaiyes, he talked to me about this error :-)
11:58 BarryAllennMrfai hi :)
12:01 BarryAllennMrfai looking around on google to solve that problem i found your post, about it, and i installed the 3.2 version (from sid) to solve it... rebuild the nfsroot, but my proc line still beggining with "none" on the installed systems,
12:04 h01gerBarryAllen, good morning :)
12:04 h01gerBarryAllen, can you chroot into your nfsroot and do "dpkg -l fai-client"?
12:04 h01gerBarryAllen, cause i see this in /usr/bin/setup_harddiscs: BuildfstabLine("proc","/proc","proc","rw,nosuid,noexec",0,0);
12:04 h01gerso Mrfai and me expect this is a user error :)
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12:06 h01gerBarryAllen, i expect that in the nfsroot you havent installed fai-client 3.2 as you probably only have etch sources in your /etc/fai/apt/sources.list
12:07 BarryAllennhmmm let me see, just a sec
12:07 h01geryou can add "deb http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/download etch koeln" there to get it
12:13 BarryAllennh01ger updated... ill install something small to test
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12:13 h01gerBarryAllen, you need to remake your nfsroot first..
12:16 BarryAllennh01ger... after insall fai-client (3.2),  on nfsroot, i have to re-run make-fai-nfsroot? (that ll not cleanup my modifications?)
12:17 h01gerah
12:17 h01gerno
12:17 h01gerif you manually install it there, you dont have to..
12:17 BarryAllenn:)
12:31 lazyb0yMrfai: eartoast: I think it's better to fail fast if a user enters invalid packages in a package config!
12:34 lazyb0ybetter than wondering much later, why a package is missing in your install - with a "warning only" policy, you need much longer to realise, and then to fix it. basically, when writing that, I even think, there should be an option to fai to immediately stop an install at the very first error.
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12:37 eartoastlazyb0y: well, i remember the woody->sarge and sarge->etch transition, where a lot of locally built packages were not yet built for the new release...
12:37 eartoastand having to wait for a reinstall (~30-45min) just to find just another missing package would have been to tedious
12:38 eartoastbut I agree, in principle one could do a kind of offline-consistency-check of $FAI
12:38 mikapMrfai: http://grml.org/tmp/mkdebmirror.log
12:39 eartoastfor cleaning the lists...
12:40 h01gerlazyb0y, i would prefer a config option: immediately-fail-on-any-error and ignore-errors-when-possible
12:46 BarryAllennh01ger, ok updated... ... on the install processs it die after a lot of errors, but the first is.... when it try to create /var/log/fai.... im getting an error about readonly permissions there...
12:49 h01gerBarryAllen, cheers! you made progress :) whats the exact error? -> paste.debian.net (or maybe jsut use chmod? ;)
12:50 BarryAllennh01ger on the installer, the nfsroot, is mounted with readonly, and the installer is trying to create that directores? seems strange
12:50 mikapMrfai: dropped the etch-proposed-updates stuff out of dist=-line, now retreiving the etch-pool
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12:53 BarryAllennh01ger: that directories = a lot of directories in var log....  (all i think)
12:54 h01gerBarryAllen, shouldnt not happen
12:54 h01gerBarryAllen, paste.debian.net or read your logfiles :)
12:55 BarryAllennh01ger i havenot log files, hehehehehe, the error is a bit before... ill paste you te error, just a sec, :)
12:56 h01gerBarryAllen, you have logfiles on the client. look into /var/log7fai there
12:58 BarryAllennh01ger, that errors i said, are in the client
13:01 h01gerBarryAllen, you have logfiles on the client. look into /var/log7fai there
13:05 BarryAllenn.... forget about man, ill downgrad and rebuild the old nfsroot, tks all
13:18 h01gerBarryAllen, why? 3.2 should work nicely. what was your problem with 3.1.8? the fstab? thats fixed in 3.2 (as other things)
13:18 h01gers/should work/works/
13:19 BarryAllennh01ger installer is failling now... i dont know (remember), if the client mount nfsroot with readonly or readwrite on the 3.1.8.... i dont know/remember if the installer in the client had problems to create /var/log/fai in the installation....
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15:10 BarryAllenh01ger, is write that? installer (client), mount nfsroot as readonly?
15:10 BarryAllen(3.2)
15:11 BarryAllenops
15:11 BarryAllens/is write that/is that right?/g :)
15:18 MrfaiBarryAllen: sure, nfsrott is only mounted ro
15:19 BarryAllenMrfai, ... but then, the installer cant create /var/log/fai (and alot of other things).... and that is the little problem soon later, the installer fail...
15:20 Mrfaishow us the error messages
15:22 BarryAllenMrfai, the errors are in the client, and the /var/log/fai isnt created (readonly problem), so i havenot the logs, ... ill retype the errors...
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15:27 BarryAllenMrfai, the very first error is, soon after the INIT : mkdir: cannote create directory `/var/log/fai/current` : readonly filesystem
15:31 MrfaiBarryAllen: FAI 3.1.8? You have downgraded? Use FAI 3.2, check if the nfsroot is created properly
15:35 BarryAllenno no no
15:35 BarryAllen3.2
15:35 BarryAllen3.1.8 was working :)
15:35 BarryAllenjust with that "small problem" about proc
15:36 BarryAllenim using packages from sid, ... that could be a problem? im thinking about, remove they, and use the apt repo that h01ger told me
15:37 BarryAllendeb http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/download etch koeln
15:37 h01gerBarryAllen, yes, do that. use the repo.
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16:48 lazyb0yh01ger: right, that's what I would recommend - the right thing(TM) for everybody :)
16:51 lazyb0yeartoast: yes, right, in some situations it can be useful - in such a case you can install without the missing packages, and without changing your config, and chaning it again as soon as you have your packages. but in general you want to know as soon as possible if something's wrong - therefore, it should be configurable...
16:51 BarryAllensame thing.... readonly error after init...
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18:13 lazyb0yhmm, why does softupdate give me an error like this:
18:13 lazyb0yCalling task_softupdate
18:13 lazyb0ycp: cannot stat `/var/lib/fai/disk_var.sh': No such file or directory
18:13 lazyb0yshouldn't softupdate leave any disk stuff alone, and therefore not need this file?
18:13 MThmm, no
18:14 MTvariables like BOOT_PARTITION and the like might be useful with softupdates as well
18:14 MTjust consider changing the grub config or updates of grub
18:16 lazyb0yah
18:17 lazyb0ybut, on a xen guest, I don't need grub or a boot partition - is there any danger involved, if I only touch this file to be an empty file, to get rid of this error?
18:18 MThmm, don't think so
18:18 MTI kept ignoring this error
18:19 MTbut probably an empty file is just fine
18:19 MTI think it's sourced, so empty should be ok
18:19 lazyb0yI'm refactporing my configspace and want installs without any errors now :)
18:19 lazyb0yand softupdates, too
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18:32 BarryAllenhi agaim :)
18:38 BarryAllenh01ger, i had really to dowgrand, i dont know why, but 3.2 was failling with problems related with readonly filesystem... but i found where to change the "proc" configuration on the 3.1.8 and... is solved, tks anyway
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21:13 BarryAllencan i use cfengine like an standalone scripting tool ?
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21:23 stockholmlazyb0y: there?
21:23 stockholmlazyb0y: was cesars answer good enough?
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