| 00:03 dink_ | is anyone awake? |
| 01:14 juri_ | that'd be a negative. on both parts. :) |
| 01:26 dink_ | okay seriously |
| 01:27 dink_ | is anyone familar from how to go from the great freebsd to the awesome debian :-) |
| 01:28 dink_ | juri: what, are you one of those people who like to turn a redhat install into a windows vista install? |
| 01:28 dink_ | :-P |
| 01:44 juri_ | sorry, i just don't know. never installed freebsd. :) |
| 01:44 juri_ | and, you know, you can install bsd/debian. :) |
| 01:55 dink_ | juri: i am aware of this... i have a dedicated host that is in freebsd (between thato redhat.. there is not a choice) |
| 01:56 dink_ | but I have about 10 years of debian experience |
| 01:56 dink_ | and i want vmware running |
| 01:56 dink_ | i only have about 4 years experience in freebsd |
| 01:57 dink_ | but ive never installed debian in that time from freebsd |
| 01:58 dink_ | ive done redhat -> debian |
| 01:58 dink_ | and debian -> freebsd |
| 01:58 dink_ | but not the reverse |
| 02:00 juri_ | nonono.. |
| 02:00 juri_ | i mean you can install a bsd kernel, with the debian software. :P |
| 02:00 juri_ | not that i'd seriously do it, but its a possibility. i study odd things. :) |
| 02:03 dink_ | yeah, but it has stability issues |
| 02:03 dink_ | and this is for production |
| 02:04 dink_ | besides, bsd and debian are two very great things that are less great when combined, sort of like beer and vodka... |
| 02:04 dink_ | you wouldn't want to mix them both |
| 02:04 dink_ | beer being the debian and vodka being the freebsd |
| 02:10 juri_ | that makes linux.. chocolate ice cream? :) |
| 02:10 juri_ | no, wait.. |
| 02:13 dink_ | not unless your ice cream is code name for some narcotic that im not aware of |
| 02:15 juri_ | i was thinking ice cream + vodka makes a good drink. kaluah? :) |
| 02:15 juri_ | i'm a big vodka drinker, or was before diabetes hit. |
| 02:22 dink_ | ah |
| 02:22 dink_ | that sucks.. i bet they will find a cure of diabetes in the next 10 years |
| 02:22 dink_ | the russians seem to like freebsd |
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| 05:05 juri_ | ok, i've got an ugly interaction bug i must solve... |
| 05:05 juri_ | my old FAI CDs boot under qemu just fine. |
| 05:06 juri_ | but the new CDs (3.1.8) either fail at the point that the rootfs is normally mounted, or fail to find the cdrom at the "Searching for CD" line.. |
| 05:08 juri_ | this is my new headache. any ideas what changed between 2.10.5 and 3.1.8 reguarding CD handling (everything? great..) would be appreciated. |
| 05:13 juri_ | i can confirm this failure occurs with the latest svn version of qemu, along with the 0.9.0 in debian unstable. |
| 05:13 juri_ | s/unstable/experimental/ |
| 05:18 juri_ | first thing i'm gonna try when i wake up is pulling the kernel/initrd/modules from my hand-rolled CD, and dropping them on 3.1.8. |
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| 13:35 Typ0King | Afternoon every1, has anyone got experience conductiing FAI installations on Xen images? |
| 13:38 MT | what exactly do you mean by "xen image"? |
| 13:38 MT | this one might be helpful |
| 13:38 MT | http://faiwiki.debian.net/index.php/Using_FAI_to_set_up_XEN_domains |
| 13:45 Typ0King | sorry I meant XEN domains |
| 13:45 MT | well, then :-) |
| 13:52 Typ0King | i'll revisit that document then :) |
| 13:53 Typ0King | thanks |
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| 14:02 juri_ | well, the problem seems to be the kernel on the 3.1.8 CD itsself. |
| 14:02 juri_ | h01ger: you arround? |
| 14:07 h01ger | hi juri_ |
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| 14:18 juri_ | any opinions on this mess? :) |
| 14:22 oz | juri_: didn't you test your old kernel yet? |
| 14:22 juri_ | yep. it boots. |
| 14:22 juri_ | i'm constructing an initrd with the old kernel, and the new linuxrc from 3.1.8 now. |
| 14:22 h01ger | juri_, which mess? xen? qemu? live? universe? friday? |
| 14:23 h01ger | maybe "life" even :) |
| 14:23 juri_ | i'll take opinions on any of that. :) |
| 14:23 oz | life is life, na-na-na. :) |
| 14:23 oz | juri_: fai-cds are a mess. ;-/ |
| 14:24 juri_ | oz: they're just the mess to solve my problems tho.. if i can get them un-messy. :) |
| Action: oz finishes his first mondorestore-run |
| 14:25 oz | I hope that's usable |
| 14:25 oz | juri_: do you know mondoarchive/rescue? |
| 14:26 juri_ | oz: nope. i use dd for all my backup purposes. and a fai cd. :) |
| 14:26 oz | juri_: could be worth a look for you |
| 14:27 juri_ | i'm doubting it. i've become very qemu-centric. |
| 14:27 oz | juri_: dd is archaic... ;) |
| 14:27 juri_ | s/archaic/reliable&&tested. :) |
| 14:27 oz | and are you capable to used different hdds? |
| 14:28 juri_ | yea, i've gotten good at masaging images by hand. |
| 14:30 oz | what do you do, then? |
| Action: oz gets interested in details |
| 14:31 juri_ | usually, i dd the first 512 bytes (boot sector), each partition, and run a fdisk -l and a fdisk -ul of the disk in question. |
| 14:31 juri_ | then i just set up matching size partitions for the first few, and expand the last partition. mostly, my dd level backups are for winboxes, so ntfsresize is very useful. |
| 14:32 oz | juri_: would you mind sharing some in the faiwiki? |
| 14:32 juri_ | well, its not strictly fai related. i just use a specialized FAI image as a live-cd. :) |
| 14:33 juri_ | has nice things like hdparm and such on it. |
| 14:33 juri_ | plus, i really need to concentrate on this bug, or a workaround for it. its driving me batty. :) |
| 14:34 oz | juri_: but I thought you'd plan to replace the kernel... |
| 14:34 oz | I'd assume that could solve the issue |
| 14:34 juri_ | that plan isnt going so well. :) |
| 14:35 oz | what is the problem? |
| 14:38 juri_ | right now, when i run the kernel from 2.10.1, with the cd from 3.1.8, its "searching for installed scsi adapters...", then gets four errors and locks. |
| 14:38 h01ger | juri_, fai-cd from the fai package works fine in sarge |
| 14:39 h01ger | my faicd in svn needs to be adapted to live-helper (uses live-package currently) |
| 14:39 h01ger | xen i would install with fai dirinstall, or xens debootstrap & fai softupdate |
| 14:39 oz | h01ger: what's the difference between live-package and live-helper? |
| 14:40 h01ger | life's a piece of shit, when you look at it. lifes a joke and that is true, keep them laughing when you go :) |
| 14:40 h01ger | oz, live-package became live-helper |
| 14:40 h01ger | rewritten from scratch i think |
| 14:40 h01ger | so live-package is dead |
| 14:41 h01ger | long life live-helper :) |
| 14:43 oz | *mumble-mumble* :) |
| 14:47 h01ger | juri_, http://isitfriday.net |
| 14:51 juri_ | well, that was.. interesting. |
| 14:52 juri_ | now i need to build a new iso image... |
| Action: juri_ tries to install 3.1.8 with the kernel from 2.10.1. ICKY. |
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| 15:14 oz_ | freaky, for me mondorestore worked quite well |
| Action: oz_ did a backup of one box and moves the image to a new box |
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| 16:13 Lin | hey all!!! |
| 16:14 Lin | there is any special tip to use fcopy? im having some problems. |
| 16:15 Lin | shell.log:fcopy: copy /var/lib/fai/config/files/root/.ssh/authorized_keys/FAIBASE to /tmp/target/root/.ssh/authorized_keys failed. Permission denied |
| 16:15 Lin | in fact. there is such file. |
| 16:16 Lin | that root is based on server or client? |
| 16:16 oz_ | Lin: but it's having the worng permission, it seems |
| 16:20 Lin | oz_: In fact this file do not exist in server |
| 16:20 Lin | lls: /var/lib/fai/config/files/root/.ssh/authorized_keys/FAIBASE: No such file or directory |
| 16:20 Lin | (on server) |
| 16:21 Lin | there is at: ls -l /srv/fai/config/files/root/.ssh/authorized_keys/FAIBASE |
| 16:21 Lin | -rw------- 1 igor igor 391 2006-12-29 10:02 /srv/fai/config/files/root/.ssh/authorized_keys/FAIBASE |
| 16:22 oz_ | what is the exact fcopy command? |
| 16:22 Lin | lemme check |
| 16:24 Lin | VERY WEIRD.. there is no such command fcopy command. |
| 16:24 Lin | this should exist inside of /srv/fai/config/scripts, right:? |
| 16:24 oz_ | so, no need to wonder, I think |
| 16:25 Lin | in fact I want to use fcopy anyway. And want to learn how it works. Cause seems very confuse for me. |
| 16:25 oz_ | did you do "fcopy /root/.ssh/authorized_keys" in the script? |
| 16:26 Lin | fcopy -s /files -t /tmp/target /etc/gnome/defaults.list |
| 16:26 Lin | my only fcopy line |
| 16:28 Lin | oz_: can you explain me 2 things about fcopy? |
| 16:28 oz_ | -s /files and -t /tmp/target is not necessary |
| 16:29 Lin | hmm |
| 16:29 oz_ | I think it causes the error |
| 16:29 oz_ | think simple |
| 16:29 oz_ | if you need /etc/hosts on the client |
| 16:30 oz_ | just do "fcopy /etc/hosts" on the client |
| 16:30 Lin | where I must store this /etc/hosts? |
| 16:30 Lin | on server? on client? on networked rootfs? |
| 16:30 oz_ | fai will pull the file with the highest class from /srv/fai/files/etc/hosts dir |
| 16:31 oz_ | Lin: on the client, please read carefully |
| 16:31 oz_ | there is also a manpage. ;) |
| 16:31 Lin | I have read the man page.. seems ambiguos for me. Believe me Im not stupid. |
| 16:32 Lin | oz_: I can call fcopy from clien comand line for test purposes right? |
| 16:34 Lin | arda:/srv/fai/config on /var/lib/fai/config type nfs (rw,vers=3,rsize=262144,wsize=262144,hard,intr,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,addr=arda) |
| 16:34 Lin | this explain a LOT! |
| 16:39 oz_ | Lin: I agree that the man page lacks a real simple example |
| 16:39 oz_ | but do as I said, put "fcopy /root/.ssh/authorized_keys" in your script. |
| 16:39 oz_ | you should not need options by default... |
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| 19:00 Lin | hmm |
| 19:00 Lin | fai call preseed debconf files with all configured classes? or only the highest: |
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| 19:11 oz_ | only the highest |
| 19:16 Lin | then I should copy the previous and add it to the highest class if I want use them. |
| 19:16 Lin | oz_: thankz |
| 19:17 Lin | this is a little annoying. |
| 19:18 Lin | Example: I have a class to install graphical interface and configure it and I have a class to customize my local environment. I cannot just add the diff to the higest class. I have to copy all previous. |
| 19:19 Lin | this happens with everything? or just debconf and scripts? |
| 19:20 oz_ | Lin: look at the doc how the classes are generated |
| 19:20 Lin | ok. |
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| 20:16 Lin | what is the better way to copy a couple of files to a client during instalation? |
| 20:16 Lin | at least 100 files medium sized (10k to 100k) |
| 20:34 oz_ | depends on the files...? |
| 20:39 Lin | oz_: .jpg files |
| 20:39 Lin | I was thinking in put them on tarball fcopy it and extract |
| 20:40 oz_ | Lin: no need to fcopy it... |
| 20:40 oz_ | just extract it |
| 20:40 Lin | sure |
| 20:40 Lin | from files dir |
| 20:40 Lin | far better. |
| 20:40 MT_ | there is ftar, too ... |
| 20:41 Lin | MT_: what ftar does? |
| 20:41 MT_ | man ftar |
| 20:41 Lin | found it |
| 20:41 Lin | ;-) |
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