[00:03] is anyone awake? [01:14] that'd be a negative. on both parts. :) [01:26] okay seriously [01:27] is anyone familar from how to go from the great freebsd to the awesome debian :-) [01:28] juri: what, are you one of those people who like to turn a redhat install into a windows vista install? [01:28] :-P [01:44] sorry, i just don't know. never installed freebsd. :) [01:44] and, you know, you can install bsd/debian. :) [01:55] juri: i am aware of this... i have a dedicated host that is in freebsd (between thato redhat.. there is not a choice) [01:56] but I have about 10 years of debian experience [01:56] and i want vmware running [01:56] i only have about 4 years experience in freebsd [01:57] but ive never installed debian in that time from freebsd [01:58] ive done redhat -> debian [01:58] and debian -> freebsd [01:58] but not the reverse [02:00] nonono.. [02:00] i mean you can install a bsd kernel, with the debian software. :P [02:00] not that i'd seriously do it, but its a possibility. i study odd things. :) [02:03] yeah, but it has stability issues [02:03] and this is for production [02:04] besides, bsd and debian are two very great things that are less great when combined, sort of like beer and vodka... [02:04] you wouldn't want to mix them both [02:04] beer being the debian and vodka being the freebsd [02:10] that makes linux.. chocolate ice cream? :) [02:10] no, wait.. [02:13] not unless your ice cream is code name for some narcotic that im not aware of [02:15] i was thinking ice cream + vodka makes a good drink. kaluah? :) [02:15] i'm a big vodka drinker, or was before diabetes hit. [02:22] ah [02:22] that sucks.. i bet they will find a cure of diabetes in the next 10 years [02:22] the russians seem to like freebsd [02:58] dink_ (~classifie@c-68-52-13-238.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) left irc: Quit: Leaving [05:05] ok, i've got an ugly interaction bug i must solve... [05:05] my old FAI CDs boot under qemu just fine. [05:06] but the new CDs (3.1.8) either fail at the point that the rootfs is normally mounted, or fail to find the cdrom at the "Searching for CD" line.. [05:08] this is my new headache. any ideas what changed between 2.10.5 and 3.1.8 reguarding CD handling (everything? great..) would be appreciated. [05:13] i can confirm this failure occurs with the latest svn version of qemu, along with the 0.9.0 in debian unstable. [05:13] s/unstable/experimental/ [05:18] first thing i'm gonna try when i wake up is pulling the kernel/initrd/modules from my hand-rolled CD, and dropping them on 3.1.8. [06:56] MT (~MT@80.109.167.79) joined #fai. [07:04] MT (~MT@80.109.167.79) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [07:40] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [07:44] allee (~ach@dialin-145-254-251-235.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #fai. [07:56] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [07:57] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [09:47] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [10:36] allee (~ach@dialin-145-254-251-235.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [11:05] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [11:50] allee (~ach@dialin-145-254-253-083.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #fai. [13:35] Afternoon every1, has anyone got experience conductiing FAI installations on Xen images? [13:38] what exactly do you mean by "xen image"? [13:38] this one might be helpful [13:38] http://faiwiki.debian.net/index.php/Using_FAI_to_set_up_XEN_domains [13:45] sorry I meant XEN domains [13:45] well, then :-) [13:52] i'll revisit that document then :) [13:53] thanks [13:59] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [14:02] well, the problem seems to be the kernel on the 3.1.8 CD itsself. [14:02] h01ger: you arround? [14:07] hi juri_ [14:13] Lin (~igor@webmail.ibeu.org.br) joined #fai. [14:14] Lin (~igor@webmail.ibeu.org.br) left irc: [14:14] Lin (~igor@webmail.ibeu.org.br) joined #fai. [14:18] any opinions on this mess? :) [14:22] juri_: didn't you test your old kernel yet? [14:22] yep. it boots. [14:22] i'm constructing an initrd with the old kernel, and the new linuxrc from 3.1.8 now. [14:22] juri_, which mess? xen? qemu? live? universe? friday? [14:23] maybe "life" even :) [14:23] i'll take opinions on any of that. :) [14:23] life is life, na-na-na. :) [14:23] juri_: fai-cds are a mess. ;-/ [14:24] oz: they're just the mess to solve my problems tho.. if i can get them un-messy. :) [14:24] Action: oz finishes his first mondorestore-run [14:25] I hope that's usable [14:25] juri_: do you know mondoarchive/rescue? [14:26] oz: nope. i use dd for all my backup purposes. and a fai cd. :) [14:26] juri_: could be worth a look for you [14:27] i'm doubting it. i've become very qemu-centric. [14:27] juri_: dd is archaic... ;) [14:27] s/archaic/reliable&&tested. :) [14:27] and are you capable to used different hdds? [14:28] yea, i've gotten good at masaging images by hand. [14:30] what do you do, then? [14:30] Action: oz gets interested in details [14:31] usually, i dd the first 512 bytes (boot sector), each partition, and run a fdisk -l and a fdisk -ul of the disk in question. [14:31] then i just set up matching size partitions for the first few, and expand the last partition. mostly, my dd level backups are for winboxes, so ntfsresize is very useful. [14:32] juri_: would you mind sharing some in the faiwiki? [14:32] well, its not strictly fai related. i just use a specialized FAI image as a live-cd. :) [14:33] has nice things like hdparm and such on it. [14:33] plus, i really need to concentrate on this bug, or a workaround for it. its driving me batty. :) [14:34] juri_: but I thought you'd plan to replace the kernel... [14:34] I'd assume that could solve the issue [14:34] that plan isnt going so well. :) [14:35] what is the problem? [14:38] right now, when i run the kernel from 2.10.1, with the cd from 3.1.8, its "searching for installed scsi adapters...", then gets four errors and locks. [14:38] juri_, fai-cd from the fai package works fine in sarge [14:39] my faicd in svn needs to be adapted to live-helper (uses live-package currently) [14:39] xen i would install with fai dirinstall, or xens debootstrap & fai softupdate [14:39] h01ger: what's the difference between live-package and live-helper? [14:40] life's a piece of shit, when you look at it. lifes a joke and that is true, keep them laughing when you go :) [14:40] oz, live-package became live-helper [14:40] rewritten from scratch i think [14:40] so live-package is dead [14:41] long life live-helper :) [14:43] *mumble-mumble* :) [14:47] juri_, http://isitfriday.net [14:51] well, that was.. interesting. [14:52] now i need to build a new iso image... [14:53] Action: juri_ tries to install 3.1.8 with the kernel from 2.10.1. ICKY. [14:55] oz_ (~oz@anubis.coresystems.de) joined #fai. [14:57] oz (~oz@anubis.coresystems.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:14] freaky, for me mondorestore worked quite well [15:15] Action: oz_ did a backup of one box and moves the image to a new box [15:15] lazyb0y (~henning@v683.vanager.de) joined #fai. [15:16] Lin (~igor@webmail.ibeu.org.br) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [16:04] Lin (~igor@webmail.ibeu.org.br) joined #fai. [16:13] hey all!!! [16:14] there is any special tip to use fcopy? im having some problems. [16:15] shell.log:fcopy: copy /var/lib/fai/config/files/root/.ssh/authorized_keys/FAIBASE to /tmp/target/root/.ssh/authorized_keys failed. Permission denied [16:15] in fact. there is such file. [16:16] that root is based on server or client? [16:16] Lin: but it's having the worng permission, it seems [16:20] oz_: In fact this file do not exist in server [16:20] lls: /var/lib/fai/config/files/root/.ssh/authorized_keys/FAIBASE: No such file or directory [16:20] (on server) [16:21] there is at: ls -l /srv/fai/config/files/root/.ssh/authorized_keys/FAIBASE [16:21] -rw------- 1 igor igor 391 2006-12-29 10:02 /srv/fai/config/files/root/.ssh/authorized_keys/FAIBASE [16:22] what is the exact fcopy command? [16:22] lemme check [16:24] VERY WEIRD.. there is no such command fcopy command. [16:24] this should exist inside of /srv/fai/config/scripts, right:? [16:24] so, no need to wonder, I think [16:25] in fact I want to use fcopy anyway. And want to learn how it works. Cause seems very confuse for me. [16:25] did you do "fcopy /root/.ssh/authorized_keys" in the script? [16:26] fcopy -s /files -t /tmp/target /etc/gnome/defaults.list [16:26] my only fcopy line [16:28] oz_: can you explain me 2 things about fcopy? [16:28] -s /files and -t /tmp/target is not necessary [16:29] hmm [16:29] I think it causes the error [16:29] think simple [16:29] if you need /etc/hosts on the client [16:30] just do "fcopy /etc/hosts" on the client [16:30] where I must store this /etc/hosts? [16:30] on server? on client? on networked rootfs? [16:30] fai will pull the file with the highest class from /srv/fai/files/etc/hosts dir [16:31] Lin: on the client, please read carefully [16:31] there is also a manpage. ;) [16:31] I have read the man page.. seems ambiguos for me. Believe me Im not stupid. [16:32] oz_: I can call fcopy from clien comand line for test purposes right? [16:34] arda:/srv/fai/config on /var/lib/fai/config type nfs (rw,vers=3,rsize=262144,wsize=262144,hard,intr,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,addr=arda) [16:34] this explain a LOT! [16:39] Lin: I agree that the man page lacks a real simple example [16:39] but do as I said, put "fcopy /root/.ssh/authorized_keys" in your script. [16:39] you should not need options by default... [17:52] allee (~ach@dialin-145-254-253-083.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [18:13] Lin (~igor@webmail.ibeu.org.br) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [18:16] Lin (~igor@webmail.ibeu.org.br) joined #fai. [19:00] hmm [19:00] fai call preseed debconf files with all configured classes? or only the highest: [19:06] MT (~MT@dove.informatik.tu-muenchen.de) joined #fai. [19:11] only the highest [19:16] then I should copy the previous and add it to the highest class if I want use them. [19:16] oz_: thankz [19:17] this is a little annoying. [19:18] Example: I have a class to install graphical interface and configure it and I have a class to customize my local environment. I cannot just add the diff to the higest class. I have to copy all previous. [19:19] this happens with everything? or just debconf and scripts? [19:20] Lin: look at the doc how the classes are generated [19:20] ok. 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