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| 08:57 Mrfai | /j #debian.de |
| 08:58 oz | :) |
| 08:58 oz | moin thomas |
| 08:59 Mrfai | hi |
| 09:03 zobel | thomas, fast! :) |
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| 09:23 h01ger | moin moin |
| 09:23 \sh | moins |
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| 12:17 h01ger | fai-kernels 1.18 build against 2.6.20 just uploaded to unstable |
| 12:18 h01ger | 1.17.1 (against 2.6.18 and with stockholms bug fixed too) will be uploaded to stable-proposed-updates later today |
| Topic changed on #fai by h01ger!~holger@socket.layer-acht.org: FAI 3.1.8 and fai-kernels_1.17 are in etch, fai-kernels_1.18 (with 2.6.20) is in sid | #fai is logged at http://layer-acht.org/fai-irc/ | http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/ | this is a bilingual channel (english/german) - english prefered :) | Don't ask if you can ask. Just ask |
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| 13:09 schurig | is it normal that after make-fai-nfsroot the file $NFSROOT/etc/init.d/rcS is fai-provided? |
| 13:09 h01ger | yes |
| 13:10 schurig | okay, which part of "fai [options] dirinstall <dir>" should substiture it with the real rcS ? |
| 13:10 schurig | in my finished dirinstall image I still have an rcS and rcS.distrib :-( |
| 13:12 schurig | also, start-stop-daemon is still pointing to the fake one |
| 13:13 schurig | but var/log/fai/localhost/last/status.log contains an OK everywhere |
| 13:17 h01ger | i never used dirinstall sorry |
| 13:17 h01ger | Mrfai and lazyb0y should know more :) |
| 13:26 schurig | Mrfai: ping |
| 13:29 Mrfai | schurig: Ich schau mal nachher nach dirinstall. |
| 13:31 schurig | hmm, I guess some call to "fai-divert" is missing or wrog |
| 13:31 schurig | wrong |
| 13:32 h01ger | but dirinstall has nothing to do with how the nfsroot should look like |
| 13:33 schurig | h01ger: right. But I also wrote "[15:10] <schurig> in my finished dirinstall image I still have an rcS and rcS.distrib :-(" |
| 13:33 schurig | h01ger: I just wanted to find out if the creation of the nfsroot or the creation of the real image is broken |
| 13:34 schurig | h01ger: and I have a start-stop-daemon and a start-stop-daemon.distrib file in the final image as well |
| Action: h01ger nods |
| 13:36 h01ger | so make-fai-nfsroot is fine and dirinstall isnt |
| 13:36 h01ger | using fai from and on etch? |
| 13:39 schurig | hmm, I see a strange line in fai.log: |
| 13:39 schurig | dpkg-divert: `diversion of /sbin/start-stop-daemon to |
| 13:39 schurig | /sbin/start-stop-daemon.distrib by fai' clashes with `local diversion of |
| 13:39 schurig | /sbin/start-stop-daemon to /sbin/start-stop-daemon.distrib' |
| 13:39 schurig | h01ger: fai-server and fai-client is 3.1.8 |
| Action: h01ger nods. though this info is for Mrfai, i used all my fai-timeslots for today already :) |
| 13:40 schurig | that strange line is output by task_updatebase |
| 13:41 schurig | my $NFSROOT also has a start-stop-daemon and start-stop-daemon.distrib |
| Action: schurig simply tarred the NFSROOT and put it in /fai/srv/basefiles/DEFAULT.tar.gz, maybe that was wrong ... |
| 13:44 Mrfai | yep, that was wrong. |
| 13:44 Mrfai | the basefile is created directly after calling debootstrap. So more modifications are made to it |
| Action: schurig copies $NFSROOT/var/tmp/base.tgz to /fai/srv/basefiles/DEFAULT.tar.gz |
| 13:48 schurig | err, to /srv/fai/config/basefiles/DEFAULT.tar.gz |
| 13:53 schurig | okay, this looks much better |
| 13:53 schurig | at the end of the fai.log I have the usual Removing `diversion of ...` lines |
| 13:58 dukez | hey all |
| 13:58 dukez | just a question, if a set a variable in a script.sources inside /class will it become a FAI varaible ? or must i export it ? |
| 13:58 dukez | sry to bother you with this but i don't want to miss up my mind with this today :) |
| 14:00 Mrfai | all variable in class/*.var are exported, because FAI uses set -a in the very beginning |
| 14:01 dukez | MrFai>in /class/script.sources i meant |
| 14:01 dukez | MrFai> to my make my bash variable becom FAI variable in /class/script.sources must i exprt them ? |
| 14:04 h01ger | zobel, i dont get a accepted mail for fai-kernels 1.17.1 (uploaded to stable), until it has been accepted, right? ;) and i dont need to prod anyone know, you (or rather dannf) will see the upload himself, right? |
| 14:05 h01ger | (i got the succesfull uploaded to localhost-mail, though) |
| 14:08 zobel | h01ger: correct. |
| 14:08 h01ger | :) |
| 14:08 h01ger | execept s/know/now/ :) |
| 14:08 h01ger | -e, arg |
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| 14:11 Mrfai | dukez: those are also exported automatically. |
| 14:12 dukez | MrFai> ok thank you, i ll make function and local variables so on my scripts :) |
| 15:43 baldy | Mrfai: are u arround? |
| 15:44 baldy | or someone else who can help me to setup a custom kernel? |
| 15:44 Mrfai | a custom kernel durin installation or after? |
| 15:44 baldy | nope after installation |
| 15:44 baldy | i used 2.x version before |
| 15:45 baldy | and it was setup in following files: |
| 15:45 Mrfai | ok so you will install a custom kernel onto the new system. |
| 15:45 Mrfai | You should create a local package repository |
| 15:45 baldy | cp /usr/src/kernel-image-2.6.12-fai-client_1_i386.deb /usr/share/fai/files/packages |
| 15:45 baldy | # cd /usr/share/fai/files |
| 15:45 baldy | # dpkg-scanpackages packages /dev/null | gzip -9 > packages/Packages.gz |
| 15:45 baldy | thats how it works on the 2.x version |
| 15:45 baldy | i did the same with /srv/fai/files/packages |
| 15:46 Mrfai | do not use files/pacakges. That was in FAI 2.X, not for 3.X |
| 15:46 baldy | ahhhh oke# |
| 15:46 baldy | but erm.. where now? |
| 15:47 schurig | baldy: setup your own repository that can be used by apt-get |
| 15:47 Mrfai | you will create a local repository and access this via ftp orhttp for example |
| 15:47 baldy | uf |
| 15:47 Mrfai | you have to add a line into the sources.list file |
| 15:48 Mrfai | and create an Packages.gz index file using apt-ftparchive. |
| 15:48 Mrfai | It's easy and worth it. |
| 15:48 baldy | in 2.x is was easier |
| 15:48 baldy | no its easier? ;) |
| 15:48 Mrfai | this is the layout of my repository: |
| 15:48 baldy | not realy |
| 15:48 Mrfai | 16 cskoeln/dists/sarge/koeln/binary-i386 |
| 15:48 Mrfai | 12 cskoeln/dists/sarge/koeln/binary-amd64 |
| 15:48 Mrfai | 32 cskoeln/dists/sarge/koeln |
| 15:48 Mrfai | 36 cskoeln/dists/sarge |
| 15:48 Mrfai | 12 cskoeln/dists/etch/koeln/binary-i386 |
| 15:48 Mrfai | 16 cskoeln/dists/etch/koeln |
| 15:48 Mrfai | 20 cskoeln/dists/etch |
| 15:48 Mrfai | 60 cskoeln/dists |
| 15:48 Mrfai | 96996 cskoeln/pool/koeln/etch |
| 15:49 Mrfai | 184344 cskoeln/pool/koeln/sarge |
| 15:49 Mrfai | 281344 cskoeln/pool/koeln |
| 15:49 Mrfai | 281348 cskoeln/pool |
| 15:49 Mrfai | 281412 cskoeln/ |
| 15:49 Mrfai | in poo there are the packages, in dists only the index and Release files |
| Action: schurig suggests reprepro |
| 15:49 Mrfai | this is my sources.list entry: deb http://kueppers/cskoeln etch koeln |
| 15:50 Mrfai | maybe reprepro is easier. |
| 15:50 Mrfai | never tried it |
| 15:50 baldy | it sounds confused |
| 15:51 baldy | very confused |
| 15:51 schurig | baldy: FAI 3.x just can use any number of standard debian repositories |
| 15:51 schurig | baldy: there are many HOWTOs out that describe things like "how to make your own local repository" |
| 15:51 schurig | baldy: and FAI re-uses this knowledge |
| 15:52 schurig | baldy: there are many different programs available to ease the repository-creation, reprepro is just one of them |
| 15:52 baldy | mh oke..i will check it later |
| 15:53 baldy | another question |
| 15:54 baldy | i want that the fai removes the /srv/tftp/pxelinux.cfg/12345 file after installing the "client" |
| 15:54 baldy | he will install the "client" again again again anfd again |
| 15:54 baldy | :( |
| 15:55 Mrfai | this is done by default. tash_chboot calls fai-chboot -dv ... on the install server if you have the fai account created correctly. |
| Action: schurig goes home |
| 15:55 baldy | erm i did a apt-get install fai- ;) |
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| 15:55 baldy | nothink else |
| 15:56 baldy | but there is no duko for the new 3.x version :( |
| 15:59 baldy | i cant find any infos how i must create a user for fai |
| 15:59 Mrfai | fai.conf: LOGUSER |
| 16:00 Mrfai | Read the comments in the new version of fai.conf. |
| 16:01 baldy | ohman |
| 16:01 baldy | :/ |
| 16:02 baldy | ich hasse etch |
| 16:02 baldy | huch |
| 16:04 baldy | doese it mean |
| 16:04 baldy | that all clients are able to connect as root to the fai server? |
| 16:06 Mrfai | no. The root account of all install clients can connect as LOGUSER to the install server. |
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| 16:11 baldy | mh thats not realy good |
| 16:11 baldy | because we install servers for customers with |
| 16:11 baldy | fai.. so i can be an security hole? |
| 16:12 baldy | s/i/it |
| 16:13 Mrfai | then you have to do it in another way. |
| 16:14 baldy | do u know any other way? |
| 16:14 Mrfai | Maybe choose "boot from local disk" a first choice, then boot from network a second. But then you have to sit in from of the computer when you want to reinstall, for typing n or so to boot from network |
| 16:14 Mrfai | s/a/as/ |
| 16:14 baldy | thats not want i want ;) |
| 16:14 baldy | what even |
| 16:15 baldy | man ich hasse englisch so langsam |
| 16:15 baldy | ;) |
| 16:15 Mrfai | ok, change to german |
| 16:15 baldy | ;) |
| 16:15 Mrfai | PXE ist schon ein Sicherheitsproblem. |
| 16:15 baldy | naja meine kunden hier installieren ihr system darüber |
| 16:15 Mrfai | Der Rechner bootet irgendein image was ihm irgendwin tftp/dhcp server gibt. |
| 16:15 baldy | das ist hier vlan geregelt |
| Action: baldy ist netzwerker und kein Linux mensch hehe |
| 16:16 baldy | seit der Kollege weg ist muss ich nu beides machen :( |
| 16:16 \sh | baldy, wie machst du pxe ueber vlan? native vlan und dann guest os vlan tagging? |
| 16:17 Mrfai | du koenntest faimond umprogrammieren, das eine bestimmte nachricht ein fah-chboot -dv .... aufruft |
| 16:17 baldy | Mrfai: so war es vorher wahrscheinlich auch weil genau so lief das ich weiss nur nicht wie das geht :/ |
| 16:17 baldy | \sh: der pxe server hat tagged alle vlans auf der nic |
| 16:18 baldy | und die "clients" stecken ja eh in ihrem vlan |
| 16:18 baldy | also ja tagged am fai server |
| 16:18 Mrfai | schick mir mal euer Version von faimond dann schau ich da rein und sag dir wie das geht. |
| 16:18 \sh | baldy, ok, d.h. du gehst aber nicht ueber trunks auf den dhcp oder? das gibt bei uns auf jeden fall elendige probleme :( |
| 16:19 \sh | wir machen das hier via native und dann die trunks drauf...(die werden dann ueber das linux os getagged) |
| 16:20 baldy | trunks? |
| 16:20 baldy | \sh: ich bin nicht cisco "verseucht" ;) |
| 16:21 \sh | baldy, ok, dann anders...native ist ungefaewhr so, als wenn du vlan 1 auf einem access port hast, ausser das das native vlan dann nicht 1 ist, sondern XXX |
| 16:21 baldy | ja ne |
| 16:21 baldy | ich tagge das vlan schon am swtich |
| 16:21 baldy | und gebs dann tagged auf die linux büchse |
| 16:21 \sh | baldy, also machst du nur native |
| 16:21 \sh | access port dann |
| 16:21 baldy | musst allerdings ne gbit nic nehmen |
| 16:22 baldy | ja ne ich glaube bei ciscos ists trunk |
| 16:22 baldy | moment ma |
| 16:22 \sh | ne...bei switch tagging ist das dann ein access port mit einem erlaubten vlan |
| 16:22 baldy | ja eben nicht |
| 16:22 \sh | wenn du bei ciscos von trunking sprichst, dann hast du ein native vlan (switch getagged) und trunks (OS getagged) |
| 16:23 \sh | native wird dann benutzt, wenn das OS kein vlan tag mitschickt |
| 16:23 baldy | Current configuration : 96 bytes |
| 16:23 baldy | ! |
| 16:23 baldy | interface FastEthernet0/24 |
| 16:23 baldy | switchport trunk allowed vlan 172,305 |
| 16:23 baldy | switchport mode trunk |
| 16:23 baldy | end |
| 16:23 baldy | so schaut das bei mir aus |
| 16:24 \sh | jo...und native vlan ist default auf 1 |
| 16:24 baldy | wäre möglch landet aber im nichts weils huier kein vlan1 mehr gibt ;) |
| 16:24 \sh | baldy, cisco default ist native vlan 1 ;) |
| 16:24 baldy | achso Mrfai |
| 16:24 baldy | $Id: faimond 3022 2005-11-10 12:47:47Z lange $ |
| 16:24 baldy | \sh: hier is nix mehr default ausser die beiden ciscos "noch" |
| Action: baldy is HP und foundry infiziert |
| 16:25 baldy | ;) |
| 16:25 baldy | Mrfai: reicht dir das so? |
| 16:25 baldy | Mrfai: wir hatten das mal so das wenn das flag INSTALL kam im faimond |
| 16:25 baldy | wurde die datei gelöscht |
| 16:25 baldy | mom kurz rauch pause |
| 16:27 Mrfai | baldy: wie habt ihr das genau gemacht. der faimond kann das nicht per default. Eure Loesung waere auch fuer andere interessant, das ist was fuers faiwiki |
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| 16:37 baldy | Mrfai: weiss ich nicht.. das hat nen mitarbeiter damals gemacht |
| 16:37 baldy | der ist nur leider nicht mehr bei uns |
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| 16:40 Mrfai | mail mir doch mal das faimond script. Ich schau dann da rein. |
| 16:42 baldy | 4.3.0 You have been greylisted; sollte dann gleich da sein |
| 16:42 Mrfai | ja, ja unser Rechenzentrum |
| 16:43 baldy | hehe |
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| 16:52 baldy | mh das mit dem eigenen debian mirror bauen nervt mich ja gerade nen bissel |
| 16:57 \sh | baldy, debmirror ;) |
| 16:57 baldy | ja ne das mein ich nicht hehe |
| 16:57 \sh | das ist bei mir ein cronjob der laeuft jede stunde ;) |
| 16:57 baldy | eher wegen meinem kernel |
| 16:58 baldy | nen mirror lohnt nicht |
| 16:58 baldy | decix traffic kostet nichts und soviel traffic hab ich nicht wirklich ;) |
| 16:59 \sh | hehe...bei >1000 servern lohnt sich nen eigener mirror |
| 17:00 \sh | und da ich hier auch noch der ubuntu distri fuer die company bin ;) |
| 17:00 \sh | und 10Gbit/s muss man erstmal fuellen ;) |
| 17:03 baldy | bei welchen provider bist? |
| 17:03 baldy | also dieses Repository is scheisse find ich |
| 17:03 baldy | Mrfai: das war irgentwie ne doofe idee |
| Action: h01ger nutzt debmirror und http://people.connexer.com/~roberto/howtos/debrepository |
| 17:05 h01ger | aber bzgl eigenem mirror sag ich auch immer "nimm squid" |
| 17:05 baldy | h01ger: mehr geht es ausschließlich um einen selfmade kernel bei den "clients" |
| 17:07 baldy | s/mehr/mir |
| 17:07 baldy | man ich hab keine lust... ich schlag mich seit wochen mit dem scheiss rum... |
| 17:07 baldy | ich weiss jetzt schon |
| 17:07 baldy | etch is scheiss ;) |
| 17:11 Mrfai | ne, ist es nicht. Du hast nur keine Lust, weil FAI was geaendert hat und du lieber Netzwerk als Linux Sysadmin machst. |
| 17:12 baldy | Mrfai: ja das kommt vielleicht noch dazu.. aber nach 2 wochen hat man einfach keine lust mehr |
| 17:13 baldy | es sind halt nur noch die beiden punkte offen dann tut es ja wie ich will |
| 17:15 baldy | Mrfai: was es dennoch einfacher macht bei der 2.x das mit den kerneln |
| 17:15 baldy | ich mein ich bau jetzt wegen 1 packete nen Repository |
| 17:15 baldy | -e |
| 17:16 Mrfai | baldy: dein faimond ist das original. Ich vermute ihr habt das in einer pipe mit einem anderen script genutzt |
| 17:16 baldy | Mrfai: ja das alte habe ich nicht mehr :( |
| 17:16 h01ger | gibs files/packages nicht mehr? |
| 17:16 baldy | h01ger: ne :( |
| 17:16 h01ger | legs doch trotzdem in dein configspace |
| 17:17 Mrfai | OK, aber die meisten habe wirklich mehr als ein eigenes Paket. ICh habe auch mal mit ein oder zwei paketen in meinem repository angefangen, jetzt sind es ca 20 |
| 17:17 baldy | h01ger: und dann? ;) |
| 17:17 h01ger | dann machste dpkg -i |
| 17:17 baldy | Mrfai: ich machs nur wegen dem fai jetzt |
| 17:17 baldy | h01ger: ja ne |
| 17:18 Mrfai | besser $ROOTCMD dpkg -i, oder dpkg --root |
| 17:18 baldy | er soll beim installieren schon den kernel installieren |
| 17:18 h01ger | jaja |
| 17:18 h01ger | klar |
| 17:18 baldy | achsooo |
| 17:18 h01ger | bischn mitdenken musst du abundzu ;-P |
| 17:18 baldy | schau mal auf die uhr ;) |
| 17:19 h01ger | 17:19 |
| 17:19 baldy | nach ca. 2 std schlaf (hatten heute nacht ne mega ddos) darf ich das mitdenken "etwas" vernachlässigen |
| 17:19 baldy | ;) |
| 17:19 baldy | 19:19 ists hier ;) |
| 17:19 h01ger | na dann gute nacht jetzt :) |
| 17:21 Mrfai | 2/quit |
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| 17:22 baldy | entweder ich raffs nicht oder keine ahnung |
| 17:28 baldy | kann ich nicht mein kernel bei einem von euch hinterlegen? ;) |
| 17:54 \sh | bei mir is schlecht...der mirror is hinter einer firewall..da kommt keiner durch ;) |
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| 18:05 \sh | so..feierabend |
| 18:05 \sh | bbl |
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| 18:05 baldy | ich hab auch gerade keine lust mehr weiter zu machen hehe |
| 18:05 baldy | ich geh gleich heim |
| 18:05 baldy | und schieb das fai nach hinten hehe |
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| 23:02 stockholm | what password does the fai user expect when logging into the fai server to save the log files? |
| 23:04 stockholm | or does it expect a ssh key and i should provide it the proper one? |
| 23:04 stockholm | i was looking for that in the guide but under troubleshooting (where the fai user would belong) there is nothing |
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