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[12:03] allee (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:17] fai-kernels 1.18 build against 2.6.20 just uploaded to unstable [12:18] 1.17.1 (against 2.6.18 and with stockholms bug fixed too) will be uploaded to stable-proposed-updates later today [12:18] Topic changed on #fai by h01ger!~holger@socket.layer-acht.org: FAI 3.1.8 and fai-kernels_1.17 are in etch, fai-kernels_1.18 (with 2.6.20) is in sid | #fai is logged at http://layer-acht.org/fai-irc/ | http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/ | this is a bilingual channel (english/german) - english prefered :) | Don't ask if you can ask. Just ask [12:34] alleeHol (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [12:34] alleeHol (~ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de) joined #fai. [13:08] schurig (~schurig@pd95f9af4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #fai. [13:09] is it normal that after make-fai-nfsroot the file $NFSROOT/etc/init.d/rcS is fai-provided? [13:09] yes [13:10] okay, which part of "fai [options] dirinstall " should substiture it with the real rcS ? [13:10] in my finished dirinstall image I still have an rcS and rcS.distrib :-( [13:12] also, start-stop-daemon is still pointing to the fake one [13:13] but var/log/fai/localhost/last/status.log contains an OK everywhere [13:17] i never used dirinstall sorry [13:17] Mrfai and lazyb0y should know more :) [13:26] Mrfai: ping [13:29] schurig: Ich schau mal nachher nach dirinstall. [13:31] hmm, I guess some call to "fai-divert" is missing or wrog [13:31] wrong [13:32] but dirinstall has nothing to do with how the nfsroot should look like [13:33] h01ger: right. But I also wrote "[15:10] in my finished dirinstall image I still have an rcS and rcS.distrib :-(" [13:33] h01ger: I just wanted to find out if the creation of the nfsroot or the creation of the real image is broken [13:34] h01ger: and I have a start-stop-daemon and a start-stop-daemon.distrib file in the final image as well [13:36] Action: h01ger nods [13:36] so make-fai-nfsroot is fine and dirinstall isnt [13:36] using fai from and on etch? [13:39] hmm, I see a strange line in fai.log: [13:39] dpkg-divert: `diversion of /sbin/start-stop-daemon to [13:39] /sbin/start-stop-daemon.distrib by fai' clashes with `local diversion of [13:39] /sbin/start-stop-daemon to /sbin/start-stop-daemon.distrib' [13:39] h01ger: fai-server and fai-client is 3.1.8 [13:40] Action: h01ger nods. though this info is for Mrfai, i used all my fai-timeslots for today already :) [13:40] that strange line is output by task_updatebase [13:41] my $NFSROOT also has a start-stop-daemon and start-stop-daemon.distrib [13:42] Action: schurig simply tarred the NFSROOT and put it in /fai/srv/basefiles/DEFAULT.tar.gz, maybe that was wrong ... [13:44] yep, that was wrong. [13:44] the basefile is created directly after calling debootstrap. So more modifications are made to it [13:47] Action: schurig copies $NFSROOT/var/tmp/base.tgz to /fai/srv/basefiles/DEFAULT.tar.gz [13:48] err, to /srv/fai/config/basefiles/DEFAULT.tar.gz [13:53] okay, this looks much better [13:53] at the end of the fai.log I have the usual Removing `diversion of ...` lines [13:58] hey all [13:58] just a question, if a set a variable in a script.sources inside /class will it become a FAI varaible ? or must i export it ? [13:58] sry to bother you with this but i don't want to miss up my mind with this today :) [14:00] all variable in class/*.var are exported, because FAI uses set -a in the very beginning [14:01] MrFai>in /class/script.sources i meant [14:01] MrFai> to my make my bash variable becom FAI variable in /class/script.sources must i exprt them ? [14:04] zobel, i dont get a accepted mail for fai-kernels 1.17.1 (uploaded to stable), until it has been accepted, right? ;) and i dont need to prod anyone know, you (or rather dannf) will see the upload himself, right? [14:05] (i got the succesfull uploaded to localhost-mail, though) [14:08] h01ger: correct. [14:08] :) [14:08] execept s/know/now/ :) [14:08] -e, arg [14:10] glance (glance@montezuma.acc.umu.se) left irc: Server closed connection [14:10] glance (glance@montezuma.acc.umu.se) joined #fai. [14:11] dukez: those are also exported automatically. [14:12] MrFai> ok thank you, i ll make function and local variables so on my scripts :) [15:43] Mrfai: are u arround? [15:44] or someone else who can help me to setup a custom kernel? [15:44] a custom kernel durin installation or after? [15:44] nope after installation [15:44] i used 2.x version before [15:45] and it was setup in following files: [15:45] ok so you will install a custom kernel onto the new system. [15:45] You should create a local package repository [15:45] cp /usr/src/kernel-image-2.6.12-fai-client_1_i386.deb /usr/share/fai/files/packages [15:45] # cd /usr/share/fai/files [15:45] # dpkg-scanpackages packages /dev/null | gzip -9 > packages/Packages.gz [15:45] thats how it works on the 2.x version [15:45] i did the same with /srv/fai/files/packages [15:46] do not use files/pacakges. That was in FAI 2.X, not for 3.X [15:46] ahhhh oke# [15:46] but erm.. where now? [15:47] baldy: setup your own repository that can be used by apt-get [15:47] you will create a local repository and access this via ftp orhttp for example [15:47] uf [15:47] you have to add a line into the sources.list file [15:48] and create an Packages.gz index file using apt-ftparchive. [15:48] It's easy and worth it. [15:48] in 2.x is was easier [15:48] no its easier? ;) [15:48] this is the layout of my repository: [15:48] not realy [15:48] 16 cskoeln/dists/sarge/koeln/binary-i386 [15:48] 12 cskoeln/dists/sarge/koeln/binary-amd64 [15:48] 32 cskoeln/dists/sarge/koeln [15:48] 36 cskoeln/dists/sarge [15:48] 12 cskoeln/dists/etch/koeln/binary-i386 [15:48] 16 cskoeln/dists/etch/koeln [15:48] 20 cskoeln/dists/etch [15:48] 60 cskoeln/dists [15:48] 96996 cskoeln/pool/koeln/etch [15:49] 184344 cskoeln/pool/koeln/sarge [15:49] 281344 cskoeln/pool/koeln [15:49] 281348 cskoeln/pool [15:49] 281412 cskoeln/ [15:49] in poo there are the packages, in dists only the index and Release files [15:49] Action: schurig suggests reprepro [15:49] this is my sources.list entry: deb http://kueppers/cskoeln etch koeln [15:50] maybe reprepro is easier. [15:50] never tried it [15:50] it sounds confused [15:51] very confused [15:51] baldy: FAI 3.x just can use any number of standard debian repositories [15:51] baldy: there are many HOWTOs out that describe things like "how to make your own local repository" [15:51] baldy: and FAI re-uses this knowledge [15:52] baldy: there are many different programs available to ease the repository-creation, reprepro is just one of them [15:52] mh oke..i will check it later [15:53] another question [15:54] i want that the fai removes the /srv/tftp/pxelinux.cfg/12345 file after installing the "client" [15:54] he will install the "client" again again again anfd again [15:54] :( [15:55] this is done by default. tash_chboot calls fai-chboot -dv ... on the install server if you have the fai account created correctly. [15:55] Action: schurig goes home [15:55] erm i did a apt-get install fai- ;) [15:55] schurig (~schurig@pd95f9af4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [15:55] nothink else [15:56] but there is no duko for the new 3.x version :( [15:59] i cant find any infos how i must create a user for fai [15:59] fai.conf: LOGUSER [16:00] Read the comments in the new version of fai.conf. [16:01] ohman [16:01] :/ [16:02] ich hasse etch [16:02] huch [16:04] doese it mean [16:04] that all clients are able to connect as root to the fai server? [16:06] no. The root account of all install clients can connect as LOGUSER to the install server. [16:06] ErKa (~keryell@m13.wifi.enstb.org) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [16:11] mh thats not realy good [16:11] because we install servers for customers with [16:11] fai.. so i can be an security hole? [16:12] s/i/it [16:13] then you have to do it in another way. [16:14] do u know any other way? [16:14] Maybe choose "boot from local disk" a first choice, then boot from network a second. But then you have to sit in from of the computer when you want to reinstall, for typing n or so to boot from network [16:14] s/a/as/ [16:14] thats not want i want ;) [16:14] what even [16:15] man ich hasse englisch so langsam [16:15] ;) [16:15] ok, change to german [16:15] ;) [16:15] PXE ist schon ein Sicherheitsproblem. [16:15] naja meine kunden hier installieren ihr system darüber [16:15] Der Rechner bootet irgendein image was ihm irgendwin tftp/dhcp server gibt. [16:15] das ist hier vlan geregelt [16:16] Action: baldy ist netzwerker und kein Linux mensch hehe [16:16] seit der Kollege weg ist muss ich nu beides machen :( [16:16] <\sh> baldy, wie machst du pxe ueber vlan? native vlan und dann guest os vlan tagging? [16:17] du koenntest faimond umprogrammieren, das eine bestimmte nachricht ein fah-chboot -dv .... aufruft [16:17] Mrfai: so war es vorher wahrscheinlich auch weil genau so lief das ich weiss nur nicht wie das geht :/ [16:17] \sh: der pxe server hat tagged alle vlans auf der nic [16:18] und die "clients" stecken ja eh in ihrem vlan [16:18] also ja tagged am fai server [16:18] schick mir mal euer Version von faimond dann schau ich da rein und sag dir wie das geht. [16:18] <\sh> baldy, ok, d.h. du gehst aber nicht ueber trunks auf den dhcp oder? das gibt bei uns auf jeden fall elendige probleme :( [16:19] <\sh> wir machen das hier via native und dann die trunks drauf...(die werden dann ueber das linux os getagged) [16:20] trunks? [16:20] \sh: ich bin nicht cisco "verseucht" ;) [16:21] <\sh> baldy, ok, dann anders...native ist ungefaewhr so, als wenn du vlan 1 auf einem access port hast, ausser das das native vlan dann nicht 1 ist, sondern XXX [16:21] ja ne [16:21] ich tagge das vlan schon am swtich [16:21] und gebs dann tagged auf die linux büchse [16:21] <\sh> baldy, also machst du nur native [16:21] <\sh> access port dann [16:21] musst allerdings ne gbit nic nehmen [16:22] ja ne ich glaube bei ciscos ists trunk [16:22] moment ma [16:22] <\sh> ne...bei switch tagging ist das dann ein access port mit einem erlaubten vlan [16:22] ja eben nicht [16:22] <\sh> wenn du bei ciscos von trunking sprichst, dann hast du ein native vlan (switch getagged) und trunks (OS getagged) [16:23] <\sh> native wird dann benutzt, wenn das OS kein vlan tag mitschickt [16:23] Current configuration : 96 bytes [16:23] ! [16:23] interface FastEthernet0/24 [16:23] switchport trunk allowed vlan 172,305 [16:23] switchport mode trunk [16:23] end [16:23] so schaut das bei mir aus [16:24] <\sh> jo...und native vlan ist default auf 1 [16:24] wäre möglch landet aber im nichts weils huier kein vlan1 mehr gibt ;) [16:24] <\sh> baldy, cisco default ist native vlan 1 ;) [16:24] achso Mrfai [16:24] $Id: faimond 3022 2005-11-10 12:47:47Z lange $ [16:24] \sh: hier is nix mehr default ausser die beiden ciscos "noch" [16:25] Action: baldy is HP und foundry infiziert [16:25] ;) [16:25] Mrfai: reicht dir das so? [16:25] Mrfai: wir hatten das mal so das wenn das flag INSTALL kam im faimond [16:25] wurde die datei gelöscht [16:25] mom kurz rauch pause [16:27] baldy: wie habt ihr das genau gemacht. der faimond kann das nicht per default. Eure Loesung waere auch fuer andere interessant, das ist was fuers faiwiki [16:30] nomeata (nobody@nomeata.de) joined #fai. [16:37] Mrfai: weiss ich nicht.. das hat nen mitarbeiter damals gemacht [16:37] der ist nur leider nicht mehr bei uns [16:37] dukez (~shinma@18.90-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com) left irc: [16:40] mail mir doch mal das faimond script. Ich schau dann da rein. [16:42] 4.3.0 You have been greylisted; sollte dann gleich da sein [16:42] ja, ja unser Rechenzentrum [16:43] hehe [16:44] ErKa (~keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) joined #fai. [16:52] mh das mit dem eigenen debian mirror bauen nervt mich ja gerade nen bissel [16:57] <\sh> baldy, debmirror ;) [16:57] ja ne das mein ich nicht hehe [16:57] <\sh> das ist bei mir ein cronjob der laeuft jede stunde ;) [16:57] eher wegen meinem kernel [16:58] nen mirror lohnt nicht [16:58] decix traffic kostet nichts und soviel traffic hab ich nicht wirklich ;) [16:59] <\sh> hehe...bei >1000 servern lohnt sich nen eigener mirror [17:00] <\sh> und da ich hier auch noch der ubuntu distri fuer die company bin ;) [17:00] <\sh> und 10Gbit/s muss man erstmal fuellen ;) [17:03] bei welchen provider bist? [17:03] also dieses Repository is scheisse find ich [17:03] Mrfai: das war irgentwie ne doofe idee [17:05] Action: h01ger nutzt debmirror und http://people.connexer.com/~roberto/howtos/debrepository [17:05] aber bzgl eigenem mirror sag ich auch immer "nimm squid" [17:05] h01ger: mehr geht es ausschließlich um einen selfmade kernel bei den "clients" [17:07] s/mehr/mir [17:07] man ich hab keine lust... ich schlag mich seit wochen mit dem scheiss rum... [17:07] ich weiss jetzt schon [17:07] etch is scheiss ;) [17:11] ne, ist es nicht. Du hast nur keine Lust, weil FAI was geaendert hat und du lieber Netzwerk als Linux Sysadmin machst. [17:12] Mrfai: ja das kommt vielleicht noch dazu.. aber nach 2 wochen hat man einfach keine lust mehr [17:13] es sind halt nur noch die beiden punkte offen dann tut es ja wie ich will [17:15] Mrfai: was es dennoch einfacher macht bei der 2.x das mit den kerneln [17:15] ich mein ich bau jetzt wegen 1 packete nen Repository [17:15] -e [17:16] baldy: dein faimond ist das original. Ich vermute ihr habt das in einer pipe mit einem anderen script genutzt [17:16] Mrfai: ja das alte habe ich nicht mehr :( [17:16] gibs files/packages nicht mehr? [17:16] h01ger: ne :( [17:16] legs doch trotzdem in dein configspace [17:17] OK, aber die meisten habe wirklich mehr als ein eigenes Paket. ICh habe auch mal mit ein oder zwei paketen in meinem repository angefangen, jetzt sind es ca 20 [17:17] h01ger: und dann? ;) [17:17] dann machste dpkg -i [17:17] Mrfai: ich machs nur wegen dem fai jetzt [17:17] h01ger: ja ne [17:18] besser $ROOTCMD dpkg -i, oder dpkg --root [17:18] er soll beim installieren schon den kernel installieren [17:18] jaja [17:18] klar [17:18] achsooo [17:18] bischn mitdenken musst du abundzu ;-P [17:18] schau mal auf die uhr ;) [17:19] 17:19 [17:19] nach ca. 2 std schlaf (hatten heute nacht ne mega ddos) darf ich das mitdenken "etwas" vernachlässigen [17:19] ;) [17:19] 19:19 ists hier ;) [17:19] na dann gute nacht jetzt :) [17:21] 2/quit [17:21] Mrfai (~lange@suenner.informatik.uni-koeln.de) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:22] entweder ich raffs nicht oder keine ahnung [17:28] kann ich nicht mein kernel bei einem von euch hinterlegen? ;) [17:54] <\sh> bei mir is schlecht...der mirror is hinter einer firewall..da kommt keiner durch ;) [17:56] meandtheshel1 (~markus@85-125-230-120.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [18:02] meandtheshel1 (~markus@85-124-207-39.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #fai. [18:02] psibox (~dreger@smart.physik.fu-berlin.de) left irc: Server closed connection [18:02] psibox (~dreger@smart.physik.fu-berlin.de) joined #fai. [18:05] <\sh> so..feierabend [18:05] <\sh> bbl [18:05] Nick change: \sh -> \sh_away [18:05] ich hab auch gerade keine lust mehr weiter zu machen hehe [18:05] ich geh gleich heim [18:05] und schieb das fai nach hinten hehe [18:33] stockholm (~andreas@petrus.schuldei.org) left irc: Server closed connection [18:33] stockholm (~andreas@petrus.schuldei.org) joined #fai. [19:21] meandtheshel1 (~markus@85-124-207-39.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [19:22] meandtheshel2 (~markus@85-125-192-155.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #fai. [19:37] MT (~MT@ip-114.net-82-216-93.rev.numericable.fr) joined #fai. [19:39] meandtheshel2 (~markus@85-125-192-155.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Quit: Leaving. 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