[00:23] meandtheshell (~markus@85-124-206-120.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [01:05] zirpu (~zirpu@nefud.org) left irc: Quit: leaving [07:35] allee (~ach@dialin-145-254-255-028.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #fai. [08:19] stockholm, lists are linked in the wiki [08:19] Action: h01ger moins [08:25] meandtheshel1 (~markus@85-124-206-5.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #fai. [08:31] meinerseins (~michael@c220140.adsl.hansenet.de) joined #fai. [08:33] hi folk [08:33] tach deinereiner [08:36] moin holger [08:44] MT (~MT@ip-114.net-82-216-93.rev.numericable.fr) joined #fai. [08:49] allee (~ach@dialin-145-254-255-028.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [09:06] MT (~MT@ip-114.net-82-216-93.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [09:13] h01ger: i read the archive and it is "dürftig" regarding fai [09:14] i know, agree & pity [09:15] rewriting setup_harddisc is long overdue. and in fact, a rewrite has been started and afaik at least (almost) finished. MT will know more [09:34] 11:06 -!- MT [~MT@ip-114.net-82-216-93.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] [09:34] (c: [10:04] the prefered language in the faiwiki is english, it's true? [10:21] meinerseins, yes [11:09] oz, faicd boots again! and installs a working system! \o/ [11:50] baldy (~baldy@pptp.dial.ipv6-network.de) joined #fai. [15:18] h01ger: neat! [15:21] yup [15:22] oz, now i need to investigate your changes at some time. but for this weekend i'm happy to have the cd at least working agian [15:51] meandtheshel1 (~markus@85-124-206-5.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [15:55] meandtheshell (~markus@85-125-193-29.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #fai. [16:07] hiho! [16:12] hey lazyb0y! [16:12] back home? [16:17] MT (~MT@ip-114.net-82-216-93.rev.numericable.fr) joined #fai. [16:17] yep [16:19] and, like it? [16:19] but not yet recovered, and too much "construction sites" still open... [16:19] MT, stockholm is interested in the status of setup_harddisc2... [16:19] what? thailand, saarland, or new york? :) [16:19] you've been to NYC too? wow :) [16:19] I like them all!!! [16:20] i'm not surprised. traveling is usally good :) [16:20] 4 days xen summit - interesting, but way too short... [16:20] s/i'm not surprised./i can imagine/ [16:20] ah [16:20] not sure about that - it's also good to be at home more than 2 days in a row :) [16:21] ahh .... setup_harddisks_2 .... [16:21] not done, it might work [16:21] probably even without having to work, but that's begging for too much, I guess - still, I'll make it somehow... [16:22] MT, any docs/infos available on the web? [16:22] there's the wiki page [16:22] and the source [16:22] hmm. then stockholm must have overseen it :) [16:22] which is IMHO really well documented [16:22] i'm happy with setup_harddisc or partman [16:22] i.e. nearly as much doc as code [16:22] hehe :) [16:23] it's time for another fai workshop, probably - making a plan for things to do after the release, looking at the next release [16:23] good! [16:23] FAI WS would be really cool [16:23] meaning: it would force me to work on setup_hdd [16:23] plan?: switch to setup_harddisc_2 [16:23] apart from updating the docs, which I guess haven't been updated, or have they (didn't check what happended to the doc correction efforts, but didn't hear anything) [16:23] plan!: get rid of fai-kernels [16:23] plan!: yes, the docs..! [16:24] lazyb0y, not much [16:24] ok, then we don't need a workshop to plan, but to do! [16:26] MT_ (~MT@ip-114.net-82-216-93.rev.numericable.fr) joined #fai. [16:26] MT (~MT@ip-114.net-82-216-93.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:28] lazyb0y, totally [16:29] h01ger: I'm still not content with removing fai-kernels because I still could not get the same information through to the clients via dhcp when using an initrd for mounting the root versus the compiled-in nfsroot and ip_autoconfig functionality [16:30] I might have to try again, but the last time I did, I invested quite some hours and it just "didn't work" - too long ago for remembering, what exactly happened, I lacked the time to ask further questions... [16:31] so you "just" couldnt make it work? [16:31] or did it work less good in some cases? [16:33] it did never work fully, only partly. [16:34] really have to look again at details, but what I currently do with the fai-kernels is that I give ip configuration, the location of the install server, as well as the location of the nfsroot to the client via dhcp [16:34] some of these (don't know now which) get to server when using the initrd and a standard kernel but some don't [16:35] it could also be just a problem with "somehow broken" initrd scripts, don't know [16:36] Not sure if I am the only one whoi needs this, but i guess quite some people do this, as it was always in the dhcp config example that came with FAI [16:49] hmm, after looking in some old notes, it seems like I couldn't get the installserver and the nfsroot path from dhcp [16:50] seemed like having to do with this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=387808 [16:50] which seems maybe fixed since some days now... [17:00] MT_ (~MT@ip-114.net-82-216-93.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [17:21] lazyb0y: hi [17:22] lazyb0y: can you tell me shortly why it is great to install xen instances with fai? [17:22] dang, mt is gone again! [17:23] h01ger: i read the wiki! [17:23] i did read the wiki, even [17:24] Action: stockholm does not recall that setup_harddisk2 should work [17:24] i thought i was still just in the planning/diskussion phase [17:24] Action: stockholm goes and looks again [17:35] http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/Setup_harddisks_2 [17:35] stockholm: it has the same advatages as installing any real hardware with xen [17:35] or do you mean as opposed to using xen-tools, for example? [17:36] h01ger: here it says it is a proposal [17:36] lazyb0y: i would like to do testinstallations and run tests agains a system fequently [17:37] lazyb0y: how do the xen machines do pxe? [17:37] testinstallation of custom systems, I guess? [17:37] lazyb0y: or should i just bye you book? [17:37] stockholm: xen machines don#t do pxe [17:38] lazyb0y: testinstallations of a production cluster [17:38] lazyb0y: to test packages [17:38] oh, so many questions so fast and I am about to leave... [17:38] do system tests etc [17:39] so, you don't test standard debian d-i cd's or something, that's what I mean. [17:39] lazyb0y: yes [17:39] yeah, you want to use FAI because it gives you a defined installation against which you run your test [17:39] lazyb0y: i do fai installations of the sytems anyway [17:39] lazyb0y: exactly [17:39] for the test itself, I am considering to try crucible, the test framwework used for nfs_v4 for example [17:40] i see [17:40] that's not xen specific until now... [17:40] thanks for the tip. [17:40] as for pxe with xen: you don#t need it in paravirtual mode, because then the peramaters can be handed over in the xen domU config file [17:41] in hvm, sadly, until last time I treid, which is some months ago, pxe wasn't working, i had to use the fai boot cd iso (whoch is not the fai-cd!) [17:41] but then it works fine [17:41] hm [17:41] Action: stockholm would like to do without a cd. [17:41] so, gotta go - mail me for further things - I'll not have much time to read here [17:41] lazyb0y: thanks [17:42] check if pxe works now in hvm [17:42] do you need hvm anyway? [17:42] i dont know [17:42] i dont do xen yet [17:42] ah [17:42] lazyb0y: i could even call you, that might be faster [17:42] normaly, you need hvm mainly for running windows [17:42] and more convenient [17:42] i will test linux stuff [17:44] stockholm: you can do - I will tell you the next point in time when I can talk then - I'm busy over my head now but will try to find a slot for you :) [17:45] apart from all that, you are still very much welcome to buy the book - it will be there next week, AFAIK :) [18:04] ok! [18:37] stockholm, its a wiki! please fix it :) [18:40] h01ger: i cant fix what i dont know! :-) [18:45] h01ger: here it says it is a proposal - right, i thought that was wrong, but its right :) so nothing to fix ;) [18:55] h01ger: so i understood correctly that the stuff is not implemented yet? [18:55] yes. but the source is there and you can use it. [18:55] h01ger: i re-read MT and your exchange in scrollback two times and i am still confused. :-) [18:55] :) [18:56] h01ger: to me it looked like he started to write perl code and mostly pot (aka documentation) so far [18:56] and not the code that does stuff [18:56] if the code is what is in the wiki [18:56] or, where IS the code? [18:56] he sounded like it would not work yet in scrollback [18:57] ... i also contacted grin about his SW_RAID extension and i could "easily" rewrite that to do LVM without SW_RAID, i think [19:18] MT (~MT@ip-114.net-82-216-93.rev.numericable.fr) joined #fai. [19:22] MT: ah, hi! [19:23] MT: how far is your new hardisks partitioning tool? [19:28] MT (~MT@ip-114.net-82-216-93.rev.numericable.fr) left irc: Read error: Operation timed out [20:04] ErKa (~keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) joined #fai. [20:29] ErKa (~keryell@keryell.pck.nerim.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [20:42] sanso_ (~sanso@d83-189-76-8.cust.tele2.de) joined #fai. 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