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[06:59] <oz> moinsens
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[08:58] <dukez> morning everybody
[09:03] <nyal> morning
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[09:39] <\sh> Mrfai: hey, could you send me some infos about your talk for froscon so I can add it to the events page, adding also my infos 
[09:39] <h01ger> when is froscon?
[09:39] <zobel> Mrfai: could you please ask for one more IP? only http and ssh need to be supported.
[09:41] <\sh> 25.-26.08.2007
[09:41] <h01ger> hmm. i somehow dont think i can make that... maybe.
[09:52] <Mrfai> zobel: which port should be open for outgoing connections? Will this IP need a host name?
[09:54] <zobel> Mrfai: ssh outgoing (openldap optional too). eunomia.debian.net
[09:55] <zobel> and http outgoing too, as we need somehow to use apt-get :)
[09:59] <Mrfai> zobel: please just give me the list of ports you like for incomming and outgoing traffic.
[10:35] <zobel> Mrfai: will send by mail after lunch.
[10:35] <h01ger> zobel, Mrfai: what are you working on, anyway? </curious>
[10:36] <zobel> h01ger: Mrfai is hosting a d.n machine
[10:37] <h01ger> that much i figured :) what for? fai related?
[10:38] <zobel> bts2ldap and w-b
[10:39] <zobel> xen running on that machine.
[10:39] <h01ger> ah, nice.
[10:40] <zobel> h01ger: we are going to move w-b (currently hosted at aba@home [DSL]) to this machine.
[10:41] <h01ger> yup. bts2ldap is also hosted at aba@home, isnt it?
[10:41] <zobel> no. .au IIRC
[10:41] <zobel> on a quite SLOW machine
[10:44] <h01ger> ah
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[12:51] <dukez> hey nyal
[12:51] <dukez> grrr isn't there
[12:52] <dukez> does somebody know how to build a bootable FAI CDROM with a menu with bootcd ?
[12:52] <oz> dukez: h01ger and me work on a cd based on live package which can do that
[12:53] <nyal> yes dukez 
[12:53] <dukez> hi nyal
[12:53] <dukez> nyal, with your bootcd technique, can i make a custom menu for the bootcd ?
[12:54] <nyal> when fai-cd install .
[12:54] <nyal> ?
[12:54] <nyal> i have done the menu with dialog
[12:54] <dukez> yes
[12:54] <nyal> in a class file 
[12:54] <dukez> but with syslinux or isolinux is it possible ?
[12:55] <dukez> to choose between a list of configuration target ? ( passing different params to the kerel )
[12:55] <oz> dukez: year, but I think there's litte difference in usage
[12:55] <dukez> nyal> to replace DHCP autoconfiguration by kernel parameters ...
[12:56] <dukez> nyal> my fai classes are based on hostname given by the DHCP ...
[12:56] <nyal> ok dukez 
[12:56] <nyal> do you have the network ?
[12:56] <dukez> nyal> yes buti want to build a autonomous CDROM install system
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[12:57] <dukez> nyal> i want to use the package of the mirror copied on the CD, and the fai_config on the CD,
[12:57] <nyal> so why can't you use an script with dialog menu selection ?
[12:57] <dukez> nyal> not to use the NFSROOT
[12:58] <dukez> nyal> a script with dialog menu selection ? you mean build a special startup script inside /class ?
[12:58] <nyal> if you use cdrom installation -> menu script 
[13:01] <dukez> nyal> do you know if a can use the fai-kernels for the bootable cdrom ?
[13:02] <nyal> yes of course
[13:02] <nyal> you can use it
[13:02] <Mrfai> zobel: was meinst du mit openldap? Dafuer gibt es keinen port. Meist du ldap oder ldaps oder beides?
[13:02] <dukez> nyal> but i am suck on the Root VFS .....
[13:03] <nyal> in bootcdwrite.conf, you set kernel
[13:03] <dukez> done
[13:03] <Mrfai> zobel: https nicht?
[13:03] <dukez> I use
[13:03] <dukez> SRCDIR=$NFSROOT
[13:03] <dukez> KERNEL=boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-fai-kernels
[13:04] <zobel> Mrfai: ldap, ja. und 80 und 443, ja.
[13:04] <dukez> but when booting is complains about not finding nfsroot, floppy or hdb ( i try hda etc ... )
[13:04] <dukez> I am testing the CD with QEmu though
[13:06] <dukez> i think the kernel doesn't find it because the driver is not compiled
[13:10] <nyal> oki
[13:10] <nyal> you have to add kernel module
[13:10] <nyal> in initramfs
[13:10] <nyal> if you have to activate in the initrd
[13:11] <dukez> nyal> i was trying to use discover
[13:12] <dukez> nyal> because i need the CDROM to be able to boot on "All" type of Hardware
[13:12] <dukez> nyal>do i still need initrd with discove ?
[13:12] <dukez> discover ?
[13:13] <nyal> you set the variable BOOTCDMODPROBE
[13:13] <dukez> to discvoer
[13:14] <dukez> no to auto
[13:14] <dukez> sry
[13:14] <nyal> do you have discover in your system ?
[13:14] <dukez> i 've set BOOTCDMODPROBE=auto
[13:14] <dukez> yes
[13:14] <dukez> installserv:/tmp# apt-get install discover
[13:14] <dukez> Reading package lists... Done
[13:14] <dukez> Building dependency tree... Done
[13:14] <dukez> discover is already the newest version.
[13:14] <dukez> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:14] <dukez> Mmmmmmm
[13:15] <dukez> perhaps not on the NFSROOT
[13:15] <dukez> ^^
[13:15] <nyal> mmm maybe 
[13:15] <dukez> mmm i got in on the chroot
[13:16] <nyal> if you know the module
[13:16] <dukez> i don't know it ^^
[13:16] <nyal> you can use BOOTCDMODPROBE=standard
[13:16] <dukez> i am burning the CD to try it on a real server
[13:16] <nyal> i have written this script for the menu selection
[13:16] <nyal> http://pastebin.ca/448066
[13:17] <dukez> whoa ^^
[13:17] <dukez> this is a WORN script :)
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[13:21] <nyal> :)
[13:21] <dukez> ^^
[13:21] <dukez> mmmmm, grrr
[13:21] <nyal> "Be aware that people have reported, that sometimes BOOTCDMODPROBE=bootcd
[13:21] <nyal> # may not work but sometimes it is needed"
[13:21] <dukez> i am doing cross architecture cd rom building
[13:21] <dukez> so to make cross architecture initramfs
[13:22] <dukez> i'll have to rebuild the NFSROOT and install it there
[13:22] <dukez> to be able to build an initramfs image with the module compiled for the good arch
[13:22] <dukez> let's try it :)
[13:22] <dukez> nyal> do you think i am right ?
[13:23] <dukez> my Etch is an amd64 one,
[13:23] <dukez> i build a i386 bootcd ^^
[13:23] <nyal> when you say cross architecture: amd64 and i386 ?
[13:23] <dukez> y
[13:23] <dukez> perhaps one day sparc32 or sparc64 too
[13:23] <nyal> have you specify ARCH ?
[13:24] <dukez> auto mode 
[13:24] <dukez> is it wrong ?
[13:24] <dukez> i 'll force it
[13:24] <nyal> i don't know
[13:24] <nyal> i have only amd64 so...
[13:25] <dukez> but if the serv end on fire, perhaps the replacement one will be i386 ^^
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[13:25] <nyal> lol
[13:44] <dukez> whouou ^^
[13:44] <dukez> working
[13:45] <dukez> nyal> just a prblm
[13:45] <dukez> nyal> FAI hangs, complainig about /var/log/fai not writable ^^
[13:45] <nyal> mmmm
[13:46] <dukez> any hints ?
[13:46] <dukez> about what is wrong ?
[13:46] <nyal> the cd it's /var.ro
[13:46] <nyal> so.....
[13:46] <dukez> so ?
[13:47] <dukez> but int the NFSROOT /var is also ro no ?
[13:48] <nyal> mmmm normally not
[13:49] <dukez> i think the NFSROOT is ro, i think /var/log/fai/current is a link to /tmp/fai which is rw
[13:50] <nyal> what are you fai version ?
[13:50] <dukez> 3.1.8
[13:50] <dukez> etch one
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[13:51] <nyal> so do i
[13:51] <dukez> just don't know why it is happening :(
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[14:06] <dukez> nyal> so .... any idea ?
[14:06] <nyal> mmmmm....
[14:07] <dukez> nyal,
[14:07] <dukez> the cd is /var.ro
[14:07] <dukez> you mean /var must be a in tmpfs ?
[14:08] <nyal> filesystem i think no ?
[14:08] <nyal> otherwise tmpfs
[14:09] <dukez> i don't understand what you mean
[14:09] <nyal> dukez: in your nfsroot
[14:10] <nyal> after make-fai-nfsroot
[14:10] <dukez> y
[14:10] <nyal> comment in the subroutines-linux the line "#mkrw -s 100m $FAI"
[14:11] <nyal> the file in the nfsroot
[14:12] <dukez> what for ?
[14:12] <dukez> This is the problem ?
[14:13] <nyal> maybe try
[14:14] <dukez> i am looking for what fai is doind before the fatal mkdir -p /var/log/fai/current
[14:14] <dukez> to understand the problm
[14:14] <dukez> it ll try in a few moment
[14:15] <dukez> Hey, fai dev team, i am loiking for create_ramdisk function, where is it ?
[14:17] <dukez> nyal> i found your line,
[14:17] <dukez> nyal> it won't change anything as fai is not already started
[14:17] <dukez> nyal> it hangs at the real start of fai, before any "tasks"
[14:18] <nyal> sure ?
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[14:19] <dukez> yes, it hangs before fai_init
[14:19] <dukez> :(
[14:19] <oz> error msg?
[14:20] <dukez> oz> it stop making error here
[14:20] <dukez> [ -d /var/run/fai ] || mkdir /var/run/fai
[14:20] <dukez> export LOGDIR=/var/log/fai/current
[14:20] <dukez> [ -d $LOGDIR ] && rm -rf $LOGDIR
[14:20] <dukez> mkdir -p $LOGDIR
[14:20] <dukez> mkdir /var/run/fai
[14:20] <dukez> after fai detect if it is executed on runlvl 0
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[14:21] <dukez> i mean as an init substitute
[14:21] <dukez> oz> what create_ramdisk ?
[14:21] <dukez> oz> i think my problem is there
[14:23] <dukez> oz> where can i find create_ramdisk ? i can't find the code in /usr/sbin/fai or in subroutines or in subroutines-linux ?
[14:24] <Mrfai> /srv/fai/nfsroot/usr/lib/fai/create_ramdisk
[14:25] <Mrfai> only inside the nfsroot
[14:25] <dukez> MrFai> i don't have it in the NFSROOT ^^
[14:25] <dukez> That's the prblm :)
[14:25] <dukez> perhpas i ll rebuild it
[14:27] <dukez> ok
[14:27] <dukez> MrFai> i found my prblm :(
[14:27] <dukez> MrFai> i have mount --bind /usr/lib/fai to /srv/fai/nfsroot/usr/lib/fai
[14:27] <dukez> when preparing the NFSROOT to become a bootable CDROM image
[14:29] <dukez> nyal> i think this is my problem
[14:30] <dukez> nyal>  in your script doesnt u make something like that ? perhaps just a copy .... do you know why ?
[14:31] <nyal> i don't understand what do you mean
[14:31] <dukez> in your script doesn't you copy the content of the server /usr/lib/fai 
[14:31] <dukez> inside the CDROM image ?
[14:31] <nyal> why have you mouny --bind ?
[14:33] <nyal> i have copy /srv/fai/config
[14:33] <nyal> i copy*
[14:34] <dukez> only this one ?
[14:35] <dukez> not /usr/lib/fai
[14:36] <nyal> no
[14:41] <Lin> hi all
[14:41] <Lin> bonjour dukez
[14:44] <dukez> Hello Lin
[14:44] <dukez> Do you have the photo of cupakabana for me ?
[14:44] <dukez> ^^
[14:44] <dukez> i assume not
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[14:52] <Lin> not yet.. its raining here :-(
[14:52] <Lin> not really raining.. just clouds in the sky.. 
[14:52] <Lin> isn't SO beauty.. im waiting for the sun ;-0
[14:52] <dukez> tis a rainning day .... oh allelouhia ^^
[14:52] <dukez> it's*
[14:52] <Lin> lol
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[14:53] <Lin> waiting for the sun is a song too ;-)
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[21:29] <stockholm> Mrfai: here, at this hour??
[21:29] <stockholm> so there can be several classes defined at the same time, right?
[21:30] <stockholm> i am wondering how that works with the partitioning
[21:30] <stockholm> because there the faibase class exists always, right?
[21:31] <h01ger> the disc_config from the class with the highest prio is taken
[21:31] <h01ger> stockholm, did you have a change to build+try the fai-kernels for stable-proposed-updates?
[21:32] <stockholm> h01ger: no, not yet.
[21:32] <h01ger> the one for unstable and with 2.6.20 build sucessfully here, now trying the other one
[21:32] <stockholm> i can try that in parallel
[21:32] <stockholm> where do i set priorieties for classes?
[21:32] <stockholm> i missed that so far
[21:33] <h01ger> the class which gets defined first, has lowest prio, thats (usually) DEFAULT, the one that gets defined last, has the highest. thats (usually) LAST. last but one is $hostname :)
[21:35] <stockholm> ok
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