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07:55 dukez	re
07:55 dukez	hi there
07:55 dukez	Good morning o GMT +1 users
07:58 h01ger	moin moin
08:02 nyal	good morning
08:02 nyal	hot Paris
08:02 dukez	hi nyal
08:03 nyal	28 this afternoon
08:03 dukez	^^, caused by the world global warming
08:05 nyal	indeed dukez
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Action: dukez Un breton ^^ Caché vos bouteilles
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Action: ErKa reinstall dukez with a new alcohol-free FAI :-)
08:57 oz	alcohol free FAI?
08:57 oz	:)
08:57 \sh	Mrfai: moins thomas :) hope you had a nice holiday :)
08:57 nyal	holiday mmmm :D
08:57 h01ger	Mrfai, whats your explaination to my fcopy question on the list? IMO its a bug..
08:58 \sh	Mrfai: btw...I could talk at froscon about FAI/combots...see mail...
08:58 h01ger	Mrfai, +good morning and happy monday morning after holidays... ;)
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09:24 Mrfai	I did not read the fcopy thread yet.
09:25 dukez	Mrfai> Here is my contribution to fai to build crossarch mirrors/nfsroot without any modification http://mrozieres.free.fr/mrozieres/fai.html
09:25 zobel	Mrfai: hi
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09:33 Mrfai	dukez: I would be great if you could add this to the faiwiki
09:34 dukez	MrFai> gime an account
09:36 dukez	^^
09:37 dukez	MrFai> i'd rather have mrozieres as loggin
09:37 dukez	mail
09:37 dukez	mrozieres
09:37 dukez	at
09:37 dukez	etaponline.fr
09:42 Mrfai	dukez: you will get an email soon
09:42 dukez	ty
09:42 dukez	I got an email
09:44 dukez	MrFai> Where do you like i write the page ?
09:44 dukez	MrFai> In the Howto section ?
09:45 Mrfai	oz: can you tell dukez where in the faiwiki his should put his howto/hint/tip?
09:45 dukez	thaks MrFai, have a good day
09:50 oz	dukez: what howto you plan to put in the wiki
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09:51 oz	Mrfai: should not be much of a problem...
09:51 oz	in question, just make a new page fpr it
09:55 dukez	oz > a new page ?
09:56 dukez	oz> where ? i don't want to "spoil" youy wiki ^^
09:57 oz	dukez: that's the wiki way...
10:03 dukez	oz> you want i create a newpage ? how can ?
10:04 dukez	in my talk ?
10:05 oz	you could either put it there...
10:06 oz	oh sorry, I forgot
10:06 oz	it's configured differently
10:07 dukez	...
10:08 oz	seems as if one can create a new page by http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/<pagetitle>
10:08 oz	iirc, there should be a lik for it when you search for the term
10:09 oz	dukez: best you put it on you page, and we'll look further afterwards.
10:09 dukez	ok
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10:33 dukez	Ok,
10:33 dukez	So http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/FAI_Cross-architecture , tell me if it is ok for you
10:34 oz	Mrfai: looks good, hm?
10:36 dukez	Hmmmmm
10:37 dukez	Your wiki don't accept <code> in <li> items :(
10:37 dukez	ok
10:37 dukez	that was an error on the page
10:38 dukez	Ouff
Action: dukez : lunch time !
11:15 nyal	bon appetit dukez (in french :) )
11:38 Mrfai	dukez: looks very good
11:40 dukez	ty
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12:03 Lin	hi all!!
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12:13 dukez	hi Lin
12:14 dukez	Hello cupakabana beach ^^
12:15 Lin	dukez: I will take some photos. and send 2 u.. ok ?
12:15 dukez	ok ^^
12:16 Lin	Im not with my camera today.. maybe  tomorrow!! ;-)
12:16 dukez	ok
12:16 Lin	Tomorrow I will dress my DEBIAN T-shirt ;-)
12:16 dukez	lol
12:17 Lin	where did you work?
12:17 dukez	Paris
12:17 dukez	Train Station St Lazare
12:19 Lin	cool!! you work in a train stations.. sysadmin?
12:19 dukez	no
12:19 dukez	not in a train station
12:19 dukez	near it
12:19 Lin	ok
12:19 Lin	which company?
12:19 dukez	i am a Internet Website sysadmin
12:19 dukez	etaponline
12:19 Lin	ok
12:20 dukez	ulyssetravel .com is our ASP soft plateform
12:20 Lin	I work in a american language institute ;-)
12:20 dukez	cool ^^
12:21 Lin	I had work with providers in the past. And as science computer teacher. But.. teach in brazil isn't so.. profitable.
12:21 dukez	lets talk in private not to flood the forum
12:21 dukez	as it is loggued ^^
12:22 Lin	let me back to my fai server.. it's drive me crazy.
12:22 Lin	This channes is so STRICT :-)
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12:22 dukez	good afternoon MT
12:22 Lin	morning !
12:22 MT	hi :-)
12:22 Lin	as I could notice MT is french too.
12:23 MT	no, not really
12:23 MT	just there on a conference
12:23 dukez	Moreover he is near Paris ^^
12:23 Lin	international conferences are amazing.. new people, new places.
12:23 MT	in fact, I'm in Nice, dukez...
12:24 MT	I'm gonna leave again, WLAN is pretty bad out here...
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12:25 dukez	strange, his Internet connexion ouput is in Aubervillier, a city near Paris ! He must be on a great WAN ^^
12:26 Lin	dukez: did you have wlan in paris? GOOD.. here in rio de janeiro we don't have these providers yet.. just personal wlan.
12:27 dukez	Lin> no in France, the only WAN are university WAN that cross the country ( the only i know is call Renater, i 144 Mb fiber channel WAN )
12:29 Lin	dukez: can I have more than one nfsroot, example: for debian and ubuntu instalations?
12:29 Lin	or it will need some "hacks"
12:29 dukez	^^
12:29 dukez	Lin> just some configuration hacks !
12:29 Lin	hmm ok
12:29 Lin	just to know.. I will need it soon ;-)
12:29 dukez	Lin> fai-chboot configuration specifics and dhcp configuration specifics
12:30 Lin	and. make-fai-nfsroot hacks ;-)
12:30 dukez	dhcp to enable tell your comp which nfsroot to use and fai-chboot to tell the kernel the same thing : which nfsroot to mount
12:30 Lin	got it.
12:30 dukez	Lin> yes, multiple make-fai-nfsroot.conf , one for each nfsroot
12:30 dukez	you can get some idea on http://faiwiki.informatik.uni-koeln.de/index.php/FAI_Cross-architecture
12:30 dukez	^^
12:31 Lin	I read already
12:31 dukez	k
12:31 Lin	Very good indeed.
12:31 dukez	?
12:31 dukez	ty
12:31 dukez	i am auto-pubing it ^^
12:31 Lin	:-)
13:23 Lin	At task_mountdisks I recieving this error: [: 93: ==: unexpected operator is it normal? (log can be see at http://arda.ibeu.org.br/fai.log ) can  I do something about this problem?
13:26 Lin	and my client clock is always wrong (it store the clock as UTC, but in FAIBASE.var i set: UTC=no and TIMEZONE=America/Sao_Paulo . What can I do ?
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14:35 Lin	someone here has used FAI to install ubuntu?
14:36 dukez	not me sry :(
14:37 Lin	dukez: yes I know..
14:38 Mrfai	Lin: there are a couple of people that have installed ubuntu with FAI. Should be no problem
14:39 Lin	dukez: I finished the installation.. everything worked fine. But when start a gnome-session it wait a long time (5 min) then start the session. Maybe its trying to connect something somewhere... any tips?
14:40 dukez	Lin> perhaps simply the DNS ....
14:40 dukez	Lin> When things are long ( SSH connexion for exemple ), My experience says that /etc/resolv.conf is not correctly set up ^^
14:40 Lin	no it isn't dns is ok
14:41 Lin	dukez: I know..  my experience says same thing. /etc/hosts is fine too..
14:41 dukez	Lin> Mmmmm only X Gnome session of general X is long ?
14:41 Lin	X start fast
14:41 Lin	only gnome-session
14:41 dukez	Lin> heu, the 1st time gnome start it create Desktop file too
14:41 Lin	long (5 minutes)
14:41 dukez	Lin> wasn't it the 1st session ?
14:42 Lin	yes it was.. but second, third ... too.
14:42 dukez	Lin> :( , don't know my friend, sry. I'm not a desktop guruu except with Wmaker ^^
14:42 dukez	Lin> or with E17 too
14:43 Lin	dukez: when e17 will be finished? ;-)
14:43 Lin	its an amazing  desktop ;-)
14:43 Lin	I reall want to see a good file manager there ;-)
14:46 dukez	Lin> i don't know, i assume when everything ll be debugged and it 's not still finished for me thougt i didn't try the lastest CVS
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15:00 nyal	" when e17 will be finished?" mmmm :)
15:00 nyal	"when perl 6 will be released ?"
15:00 nyal	:)
15:01 dukez	^^
15:02 dukez	in French we have a sentence for this it is : "Quand les poules auront des dents" wich mean "When chickens will have teeth"
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15:05 Lin	in brazil we have the same sentence.
15:05 Lin	Quando a galinha criar dente.
15:07 dukez	cool, this is an international metaphora ^^
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15:08 DonDiego	hi
15:08 dukez	hi
15:08 dukez	one more researcher/student/teacher from the university ?
15:09 DonDiego	me?
15:09 dukez	yes ?
15:09 DonDiego	kind of ..
15:09 dukez	k
15:09 DonDiego	student/admin
15:09 DonDiego	i have a question about network booting
15:09 DonDiego	i
15:09 dukez	this is called a studadmin ^^
15:09 dukez	Ask your teacher MrFai ^^
15:09 DonDiego	'm banging my head against the wall debugging here ..
15:10 dukez	ask it
15:10 dukez	is it about PXE ?
15:10 DonDiego	i'm not from cologne university
15:10 DonDiego	yes, pxe
15:10 dukez	k
15:10 dukez	What the hell K
15:10 dukez	?
15:10 dukez	With PXE ?
15:10 DonDiego	it stopped working after the upgrade to etch
15:10 dukez	mmmmm :) What stop working ?
15:10 DonDiego	dhcp address works
15:10 dukez	Step 1 - Does DHCP is working ?  YES
15:10 dukez	Step 2 - Does TFTP works ?
15:11 DonDiego	and then tftp does not transfer the nfsroot
15:11 dukez	Tftp is not the NFSROOT
15:11 dukez	Tftp is for the kernel
15:11 dukez	The 1st stage kernel
15:11 DonDiego	ok, that's the stage where it fails
15:11 dukez	ok
15:11 dukez	so
15:11 DonDiego	PXE-32: TFTP open timeout
15:11 dukez	did you use atfpd or tftpd-hpa of Debian ?
15:11 Mrfai	He, I remember an important change in DHCP.
15:12 DonDiego	netstat on the server shows tftpd-hpa running
15:12 Mrfai	the new DHCP need one additional option:
15:12 dukez	?
15:12 Mrfai	next-server AFAIR
15:12 Mrfai	This was not needed before.
15:12 DonDiego	and nmap from the to-be-installed-host shows tftpd
15:12 dukez	MrFai> next-server is mandatory, not new !
15:13 Mrfai	in the past is was not mandatory.
15:13 Mrfai	now it is
15:13 DonDiego	it's there
15:13 DonDiego	server-name pride; next-server pride;
15:13 DonDiego	on two lines, not one
15:13 dukez	no
15:14 dukez	server-name "192.168.4.120";
15:14 dukez	next-server 192.168.4.120;
15:14 dukez	filename "pxelinux.0";
15:14 dukez	Here are thre required option
15:14 DonDiego	zounds
15:14 thpo	DonDiego: try server-name "pride"; this caused some problems for me some time ago
15:14 dukez	Here is an exemple of /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
15:15 dukez	Yes, don't miss the quotes
15:15 Mrfai	DonDiego: you have to call fai-chboot again. There are new parameters needed in the pxelinux.cfg/... files
15:15 dukez	http://rafb.net/p/lD85kK81.html
15:15 Mrfai	read the NEWS file
15:15 DonDiego	i scrapped the whole old config
15:15 DonDiego	purged and reinstalled
15:15 DonDiego	let me try the quotes ..
15:15 DonDiego	and/or the ip
15:15 dukez	DonDiego> And look to /var/log/syslog to see if the TFTP server is contacted
15:16 DonDiego	ip address does not work
15:16 dukez	DonDiego, try the IP if u don't set    option domain-name-servers and    option domain-name
15:16 DonDiego	dhcpd rejects the config
15:16 dukez	which one ?
15:16 dukez	Which version of dhcp are u sing ? the 3 ?
15:17 dukez	DonDiego, post a paste of your DHCP configuration ^^
15:17 DonDiego	etch
15:18 DonDiego	give me a moment to try the suggestions ..
15:18 dukez	installserv:~# apt-cache search dhcpd
15:18 dukez	dhcp - DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment
15:18 dukez	dhcp3-server - DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment
15:18 dukez	you must isntall the dhcp3-server package
15:18 dukez	but i think dhcp is a virtual one
15:19 DonDiego	i have dhcp3-server installed
15:19 dukez	ok
15:19 dukez	So it must work, look at my configuration, this one is OK for me.
15:19 dukez	Dont forget ; at the end of lines
15:20 dukez	DonDiego or simply paste the error message
15:20 DonDiego	i'm being called
15:20 DonDiego	i gotta run out for a moment
15:20 DonDiego	i'll be back soon
15:20 dukez	^^
15:20 DonDiego	thx for the help so far
15:22 dukez	MrFai> does fai-setup do something more than seting up nfs shares and the NFSROOT ?
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15:23 Lin	dukez: did you found any page in english about netboo using wi-fi
15:23 Lin	?
15:24 DonDiego	\o/
15:24 DonDiego	it boots
15:24 dukez	Lin> no, netbooting througt Wifi is the same as over Ethernet provided that your Wireless Network Card support it
15:24 dukez	?
15:24 DonDiego	it seems it needed both the quotes and the ip addresses
15:25 dukez	DonDiego, welcome to the matrix
15:25 dukez	^^
15:25 DonDiego	but one option with, the other without quotes
15:25 Lin	dukez: dlink support center told me that there isn't any wifi card with network boot support.
Action: DonDiego looks for somebody to strangle
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15:25 dukez	his*
15:25 thpo	DonDiego: this was what puzzled me as well some time ago ;-)
15:26 dukez	thpo> yes, dhcp configuration is a bit messy
15:26 Mrfai	dukez: fai-setup also creates the LOGUSER account.
15:27 dukez	MrFai> ok, so it is not mandatory to call it if i have setuped up nfsroot and exports ....
15:27 dukez	MrFai> tx for the answer
15:28 DonDiego	hah
15:28 DonDiego	it works with names as well if you have proper entries in /etc/hosts
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15:29 DonDiego	the hostname resolved to 127.0.0.1
15:29 DonDiego	this was one of the other admins :)
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15:34 DonDiego	dukez: your help was priceless thanks a billion
15:35 DonDiego	i'll see if i update the wiki or fai guide with this
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17:41 stockholm	what was the fai/XEN book again?
17:41 stockholm	URL?
17:47 Lin	dukez_away: I found the problem!!!
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18:01 DonDiego	bye, thx for the help
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23:10 Lin	heya!
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