[00:21] Lin (~igor@200.179.57.57) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [00:31] Lin (~igor@200.179.57.57) joined #fai. [02:08] meandtheshell (~markus@85-124-175-207.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Quit: Leaving. [05:40] stockholm (~andreas@petrus.schuldei.org) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [05:40] stockholm (~andreas@petrus.schuldei.org) joined #fai. [07:12] Nick change: \sh_away -> \sh [07:23] MT (~MT@91.112.19.42) joined #fai. [07:31] MT (~MT@91.112.19.42) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [09:03] meandtheshel1 (~markus@85-124-232-65.work.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #fai. [09:30] baldy (baldy@pptp.dial.ipv6-network.de) joined #fai. [09:30] hi all [09:32] any1 know whats happend.. after update from sarge to etch fai dont want to install debian :( [09:32] it will only boot somethink like a "rescue system" [09:33] but dont ask for a password [09:33] or wont install... [09:33] its realy strange [10:14] dukez (~shinma@18.90-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com) joined #fai. [10:14] hi all [10:14] i think i perhaps found a way to cross arch installs NFSROOT :) i am testing the finall solution [10:21] I works !! [10:22] Who wants to know how to cross build NFSROOT with make-fai-nfsroot with only 2 configuration assets ^^ [10:23] submit@bugs.debian.org :) [10:23] severity: wishlist [10:23] hi dukez :) [10:23] h01ger> HI [10:23] the APT_CONFIG env variable save me ^^ [10:28] dukez, please file a wishlist bug, where you document this. then we can pick it up and either include in the code or the documentation [10:28] dukez, are you familar with the debian bts? [10:29] suyre [10:29] sure [10:30] :) [10:54] dukez, could You explain the process? [10:54] i am making an HTML page of it [10:54] cool [10:54] i ll post the link in a few moment :) [10:54] faibot, list [10:55] can faibot remember factoids or urls? [11:13] faibot needs the ability to memorize phrases, and regurgitate them. [11:14] Pre alpha release :) [11:14] http://mrozieres.free.fr/mrozieres/fai.html [11:14] take a look and paste comment if you have any :) [11:14] i gonna go out for lunch [11:14] cya [11:26] ErKa (~keryell@m92.net85-168-209.noos.fr) joined #fai. [11:34] dukez, cool! thanks! [11:34] faibot, praise dukez [11:35] hmm.. [11:39] nyal (~nyal@sd-926.dedibox.fr) joined #fai. [11:40] hmm... fai-kernels could just include the kernels for all architecture, wouldn't that be something? [11:45] sanso|work, fai-kernels will be removed for lenny. we'll just use std-debian kernels [11:49] baldy, sounds like that is the problem :) (re: mail) [11:49] baldy, read NEWS.Debian.gz [11:49] (in case you havent done so already :) [11:53] h01ger, cool. [12:11] 'removed for lenny'? [12:27] we'll just use std-debian kernels [12:27] oz, hi. thats no news. it was planned for etch already.. [12:29] cool, even if not really news :) [13:03] h01ger: i dont understand the problem [13:03] it seems that no one knows the problem [13:14] balday? which one ? [13:14] ErKa (~keryell@m92.net85-168-209.noos.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [13:15] someone read my FAI "contrib" for multi arch ? [13:27] dukez: after updateing the debian [13:27] nothinks works [13:28] i am here since two days to try to fix it [13:28] it wont work [13:28] updating ? [13:28] with fai ? [13:28] nothing works : what do you mean ? [13:29] mom [13:29] lets speak a bit later [13:29] ^^ [13:29] telephone atm [14:09] okey.... dukez .. time know? [14:09] noe [14:09] now [14:09] even [14:09] lol [14:10] its to hot here ;) [14:10] Take an ice cream [14:12] Can someone read & test the procedure in http://mrozieres.free.fr/mrozieres/fai.html please ? [14:55] hi dukez [14:55] hi Lin [14:55] I will rebuild my nfsroot [14:56] k [14:56] Did you receive any messages related to portmap in startup of fai installation? [14:56] Let me have a test i ll test u in a minute [14:57] At the moment i haven't [14:57] I was having such a message when my NFSROOT was broken [14:58] you should rebuild it and check everything is ok in my opinion, [14:58] Perhaps can you simply save your current one and rebuild one more nfsroot for test [15:00] rebuilding [15:00] ok [15:00] I know that you use debian [15:01] but there is any problem with ubuntu fai instalations? [15:01] should not. [15:01] i don't know [15:01] just look at ubuntuu BTS [15:06] ok. I will [15:13] who is working on patching fai-cd for Etch ? [15:13] need any help ? [15:13] dukez, i have done information to MrFai [15:13] to do a fai-cd [15:14] with bootcd it's very easy [15:14] and i use it in prod [15:14] nyal> bootcd + bootcd-initramfs for sure [15:14] nyal> nyal, you use it with fai nfsroot and fai-mirror ? [15:14] yes [15:14] http://rafb.net/p/hCtUfJ61.html (make-nfs output) [15:14] i have done male-fai-master [15:14] nyal> can you send me your script ? [15:14] make-fai-master [15:14] no problem [15:15] make-fai-master ? [15:15] fai-nfsroot module-init-tools dhcp3-client ssh rdate lshw hwinfo portmap bootpc rsync lftp rsh-client less dump reiserfsprogs usbutils psmisc pciutils hdparm smartmontools parted mdadm lvm2 dnsutils ntpdate dosfstools cvs jove xfsprogs xfsdump sysutils dialog discover mdetect libnet-perl console-tools console-common expect iproute udev subversion sysvinit upstart- grub lilo read-edid [15:15] E: Broken packages [15:16] you have conflicting packge no ? [15:16] try apt-get install the list [15:16] and see what is conflicting [15:16] finishing a apt-get update [15:16] ;-) [15:16] http://rafb.net/p/3JJLzJ20.html [15:16] it's make-fai-master [15:16] the last line of the script [15:16] i use a VERSION file in config [15:17] nyal> it is working with Etch ( kernel 2.6 and udev ) ? [15:17] it seems [15:18] yes [15:18] work weel [15:19] well [15:19] i use it in production [15:19] now: http://rafb.net/p/JEc4Kn16.html [15:19] nyal> is it cross architecture capacble ^^ [15:19] my bootcdwrite.conf [15:19] i use bootcd for amd64 [15:19] etch amd64 [15:20] nyal> do you know if any arch flag exists with bootcd ? [15:20] my bootcdwrite.conf doesn't use discover [15:20] nyal> i manage both i386 and amd64 nfsroot and mirror on my installserver [15:20] i have written my kernel module in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules [15:20] nyal> and i need to make both i386 and amd64 image [15:20] i think it's ok [15:21] you have to use another bootcdwrite.conf [15:21] yes [15:21] for directories [15:21] i see it [15:21] i think it can work [15:21] yes i think too [15:21] dukez: I think that there is a conflict beetween upstart and init [15:21] sysvinit [15:21] Lin> so you cannot install both on NFSROOT [15:22] how can I setup WHAT will be installed on nfsroot? [15:22] Lin> choose one, and make the package list work with pat-get install [15:22] i have to go [15:22] ! /etc/fai/make-fai-nfsroot=>NFSROOT=XXXXX old fai [15:22] bye nyal [15:22] tx for the script sharing [15:22] no problem :) [15:22] Lin or /etc/fai/NFSROOT file [15:23] if it can help [15:23] it ask for removal of upstart [15:23] nyal> you helped my, i 've finished sarge to etch fai migration [15:23] no probvlem. [15:23] Lin> so remove upstart from the list ! [15:23] sysvinit upstart- [15:23] it's already [15:24] no [15:24] ok [15:24] try one time with sysvinit [15:24] the other time with upstart [15:24] but if upstart is part of the Ubuntuu bootstrap install, jsute remove sysvinit [15:24] just* [15:26] I really dunno. [15:26] ubuntu is so weird 2 me [15:26] its a good desktop [15:26] but it has some weird configurations [15:27] it has no keymap do be loaded but how can it change the keymap? loadkeys simply doesn't work. There is some setupcon without any man page... [15:27] damn weird [15:27] Lin> try to remove sysvinit, rerun make-fai-nfsroot but with "make-fai-nfsroot -v > /tmp/log.txt 2>&1" [15:27] ok [15:28] dukez: http://arda.ibeu.org.br/log.txt [15:29] if you want to see interactively ;-) [15:29] ^^ [15:29] ok [15:29] Just look [15:29] upstart is part of debootstrap [15:29] im looking already.. [15:29] So upstart is needed in the base system [15:29] yes it is [15:29] so revert the change [15:30] just remove the package conflicting with upstart from the NFSROOT list [15:30] should I keep upstart.. and remove sysvinit [15:30] yes [15:30] ok [15:30] i think [15:30] done already [15:30] but i ma not sure [15:30] trying.. ;-) [15:30] in 15 minutes we will know ;-) [15:30] k [15:30] i going out for a cigaret [15:31] and me 4 a coffe [15:31] ;-) [15:47] Nick change: \sh -> \sh_away [15:48] Lin> thins seems better [15:49] Lin> You just have a problem with perl packages :( [15:49] exactly [15:49] look for perl-modules and libnet-perl conflict [15:49] Lin> but i think your NFSROOT is now workable [15:49] i looking EXACTLY this right now [15:49] I wil lremove libnet as prereq.. what uses libnet? [15:49] perl-modules should fullfill this [15:50] Lin> libnet-perl provides modules like Net::SMTP [15:50] i know [15:50] Lin> I think.... i don't know perl-modules packages :) [15:50] perl-modules should be a ubuntu-thing to put everything in the same bag [15:51] yes it is [15:51] it conflits with A LOT of perl modules [15:51] Lin> remove perl-modules [15:51] Lin> i never seen it :) [15:51] I cannot [15:51] perl need perl-modules [15:51] on debian [15:52] on ubuntu [15:52] Lin> ok [15:52] Lin> don't u mix repository ? [15:52] Lin> remove libnet-perl so .. [15:52] I will do [15:52] but before, give a try to your new NFSROOT [15:52] :) [15:52] ;-) [15:53] ok [15:54] I think that its a problem in module dependencies.. perl should not depend of perl-modules. makes no sense [15:55] libnet-perl depends perl depends perl-modules conflics libnet-perl [15:55] makes no sense [15:59] ^^ [16:00] Sry for the troll but i hate Ubuntuu, because in my opinion, it hurt the debian project [16:00] So .... [16:00] dukez: i dont like it SO. [16:00] yes it hurts the debian project [16:00] but it aims 4 something that there isn't on debian, a good desktop [16:01] no matter how you try.. debian is focused on administrations and servers [16:01] Lin> lets try not to troll this forum with this subjet Lin :) [16:01] is the better way to manage servers. has a damn good package. and unbeliveable tools (as fai) [16:02] but lacks something... [16:02] example.. [16:02] did you saw the latest ubuntu (feisty)? [16:02] when you try to play a audio file with a non existent coded. It ask you for instalation. and installs it 4 u [16:02] Lin> no :(, i'll never install ubuntuu on my desktop, i use Debian SID :) [16:02] just works. [16:02] Lin> the NFSroot ? [16:02] this is a ubuntu effort. [16:03] isn't something BIG. [16:03] but users LOVE this.. try to ask a user to open synaptic (apt/aptitude/dselect) and install a codec. [16:03] add a repository o anything else. [16:03] I know.. its easy.. but users don't think like that [16:04] NO CONFLICTS!! [16:04] Lin> the more you use GUI or automated things, the less u understand what your are doing [16:04] Lin> and if things go wrong you are dependend from the GUI or the automation [16:05] but ubuntu has the same flaws as fedora / mandriva.. it insert too much new things in every package. it create new bugs. [16:05] dukez: as a sysadmin for more than 10 years I cont change my CLI + Scritps + automation for anything. [16:05] but users are users. [16:05] but it uses debian packages. [16:05] Lin> yes, users are too much used to Windows .... [16:06] yes. then I see ubuntu with good eyes [16:06] I use ubuntu on my dektop.. but server in anything else. [16:06] but debian in ... [16:06] Lin> but ubuntuu release an ubuntuu server flavoured version [16:07] Lin> what a shame ! [16:07] shame 4 use ubuntu desktop? [16:07] ;-) [16:08] dukez: yeah.. I think that ubuntu server version should not exist [16:08] dukez: they should stay on desktop. [16:08] dukez: BUT, there is something that I missing on system side.. [16:08] something as a new init. I know.. init is stable.. but 30 years :-) [16:08] Lin> in my opinion, besides making a whole new distrib, the "community" may have worked on a linked stable repository project [16:09] Lin> with End-users oriented software [16:09] dukez: I know.. but this effort never was created. [16:09] simply [16:09] but not end-users soft [16:09] not only. [16:09] new features focused on users as that explained above [16:09] k [16:10] Lin> did you try your new nfsroto ?. [16:11] root * [16:11] right now. [16:11] ;-) [16:11] k [16:11] fai already started [16:16] unpacking ;-) [16:16] dukez: are you french? [16:17] yes [16:17] I never been on france.. they say that french bread is amazing.. and I love bread ;-0 [16:18] Not all french bread are good but for French, the bread is a french product [16:18] I live on Rio de Janeiro, Brazil... in last month 4 french was murdered here.. its a shame [16:18] In Rio ? whoa, city of crime, sex and drugs ^^ [16:19] amazing [16:19] yeah.. crime everywhere. Sex for those who can pay and drugs to kill yourself. [16:19] im at copacabana beach right now ;-) [16:19] Is it as spoiled ( pollution ) as people says ? [16:19] no [16:19] not a lot pollution.. [16:20] we have a good air. [16:20] IMHO! [16:20] ;-) [16:20] Lin> you have the Wifi near the beach ? [16:20] but there is better one.. but rio is really beauty.. ;-) [16:20] yes [16:20] ;-D [16:20] I will change my antenna [16:20] to a 15dbi [16:20] to reach beach [16:20] ;-) [16:20] pffffff, don't you need a sysdamin teamate to work with you ? i speak spanish too :) [16:21] but we speak portuguese here ;-) [16:21] oh :( i've forgotten, the only country of South america not to speack "spanish" but portuguese ^^ [16:21] dukez: if you come to brazil someday be my guest.. [16:21] sure [16:22] idem if you come to Paris [16:22] ;-) [16:22] someday ;-0 [16:22] there 's someone coming from Venezualla in my compani [16:22] a beautifful girl [16:23] She often talk me about south america [16:23] one day, when i have money i ll make a good trip there [16:26] a friend of fine visited paris in last year [16:26] it said that is a amazing city. [16:26] is it true that french hate ppl talking english with them? [16:26] in streets.. asking 4 information.. etc. [16:26] friday 13th ;-) [16:27] Lin> not french people [16:27] are you here? [16:27] Lin>^^ [16:27] I had some net shortout here [16:27] Lin> People in Paris are selfish [16:27] ping dukez [16:27] !ping dukez [16:27] pong [16:28] hehe [16:28] ok [16:28] my boss close the company [16:28] cya [16:28] bye! [16:28] where you work? [17:06] Nick change: \sh_away -> \sh [17:12] Nick change: \sh -> \sh_away [17:46] some one know which user is used to copy the install logs to the install server (i know that it tries to log in as user fai) [17:50] ErKa (~keryell@m92.net85-168-209.noos.fr) joined #fai. [18:19] ErKa (~keryell@m92.net85-168-209.noos.fr) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [18:32] I have to use the SAME distro as NFS root and install clients? [19:28] Lin (~igor@200.179.57.57) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:40] Lin (~igor@200.179.57.57) joined #fai. 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