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09:47 juri__	lin: i don't think so, no. ;)
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10:29 sanso|work	Lin, booting from cd isn't sooo bad
10:59 zobel	someone seen the boss? aka MrFai...
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11:03 sugarmice	Nah - it's all been a little quiet around here
11:04 sugarmice	We're about to re-think our FAI servers here, and was wondering whether you guys had any thoughts:
11:05 sugarmice	Currently we have two FAI servers, one for 32-bit and one for 64-bit.  Have any of you managed to create a FAI server on a 64-bit machine which can install both 32-bit and 64-bit machines?  It seems to me it ought to be possible (just a separate NFS root for each arch) but I've never done it.  Have any of you?
11:06 sugarmice	The other thought is have any of you done a feature comparison with m23?
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11:24 sanso|work	sugarmice, I have an amd64 fai server that does i386 and amd64 - works well
11:34 sugarmice	Cool - so how do you go about setting that up?  Are there any gotchas I should be aware of?
12:08 dukez	sugarmice>
12:08 dukez	me
12:08 dukez	i ve done it
12:08 dukez	just create to different config space : /etc/fai-i386 and /etc/fai-amd64
12:09 dukez	inside make-fai-nfsroot.conf, FAI_DEBOOTSTRAP, add --arch XXXXXXX
12:09 dukez	get fai-kernel for both amd64 and i386
12:09 dukez	setup KERNELPACKAGE inside make-fai-nfsroot
12:10 dukez	call make-fai-nfsroot -C /etc/fai-i386 -k vmlinuz-install-i386
12:10 dukez	call FAI_ETC_DIR=/etc/fai-i386 fai-mirror /srv/fai/mirror-i386
12:10 dukez	etc ....
12:10 dukez	setup /etc/dhcp
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12:22 sugarmice	Sounds relatively straightforward, thanks
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12:57 dukez	sugarmice> the only complex things to do is to specify all the param for fai-chboot
12:59 dukez	fai-chboot -k "ip=dhcp FAI_ACTION=install nfsroot=/srv/fai/nfsroot-amd64,v3,tcp,rsize=32768,wsize=32768"-F  vmlinuz-install-amd64 /dev/nfs coltrev02
12:59 dukez	for me
12:59 dukez	quite complex but understandable
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14:35 dukez	hi all
Action: h01ger wonders if the mailing list has a hickup. i sent a mail yesterday but havent got it back
15:37 dukez	hey h01ger
15:37 h01ger	hi dukez
15:37 dukez	i got a strange error about portmap trying to contact localhost when booting with FAI 3.18
15:37 dukez	this is not blocking
15:37 dukez	but do you know what FAI is trying to do ?
15:38 dukez	it is at start, before running the class scripts
15:38 dukez	Moreover, i got en error this killall in get-boot-info....
15:38 dukez	I wonder if a package is not missing from my NFSROOT
15:38 dukez	Doesit sounds to u ?
15:38 h01ger	nope
15:38 dukez	killall command not found at line XXX
15:39 Lin	sanso|work: yes. It is. I want a non interactive instalation.
15:48 Lin	or do you mean fai-cd?
15:48 Lin	I really dunno how fai-cd works. It can update packages from network?
15:51 dukez	not really, it use a mirror on the media
15:51 dukez	but u can apt-get update && apt-get upgrade in a script run by the installation processs
15:56 dukez	Lin> i mean, to make the fai-cd iso, you must provide to fai-cd a Debian fai-mirror.
15:57 dukez	Lin> The fai-cd iso will use this mirror during the install to access Debian packages.
15:57 Lin	dukez: I think that apt-get upgrade is too much interactive, and has problemas in upgrading version, exemple my cd is etch but the latest is etch+1  can happen some problem while installation (i cannot accept this, there is any way to avoid?).
15:58 dukez	Lin> In my opinion, use fai-cd like you would use Debian installs CD  ( not netinstall )
15:58 dukez	Lin> and then run a fai softupdate
15:58 Lin	dukez: I will be VERY far from clients
15:58 dukez	Lin> provided that during the fai-cd install you redifine during scripts execution the content of $target/etc/apt/sources.list
15:59 dukez	Lin> And ?
15:59 Lin	I dont want  support users in reinstalations
15:59 dukez	Lin> fai-cd must be use for disaster recovery
15:59 dukez	Lin> one the server will be up, you simply have to take the hand on it trought ssh and run fai softupdate
15:59 Lin	dukez: right now I have to install 160 computers.
15:59 dukez	Lin> And so ? Clusters ?
15:59 Lin	do ssh to 160 computers is boring ;-)
15:59 Lin	no.. user desktop
16:00 dukez	Lin> ok, so make the fai-cd once a day the night
16:00 Lin	I will need 160 cds.
16:00 Lin	;-)
16:00 dukez	Lin> no ! With One CD, you can install 160 différent computers
16:01 Lin	Will be a hell ;-)
16:01 dukez	Lin> I personnly use 1 CD to install 14 servers
16:01 Lin	how often you reinstall your servers?
16:01 dukez	Lin> in case of disaster recovery or to test the process
16:01 dukez	Lin> If you have to reinstall often, make an Installserver !
16:02 Lin	Users frequently destroy their systems ;-)
16:02 dukez	Lin> Your users ll just have to press F12 at start
16:02 Lin	I have a Install server
16:02 Lin	It already configured
16:02 Lin	and running
16:02 dukez	Lin> So !!!! Install server use network update !
16:02 Lin	nfs. mirror, ssh and everythingf else
16:02 dukez	Lin> FAI-CD use media update :(
16:02 Lin	dukez: here comes my SECOND problem
16:02 dukez	Lin> so ? why do you need the FAI-CD ?
16:02 Lin	some hosts has only WI-FI card
16:03 dukez	haha !!
16:03 Lin	it cant do net boot ;-(
16:03 Lin	unfortunely
16:03 Lin	some hosts == half them
16:03 Lin	dont laugh at me :-(
16:03 dukez	Lin> in my opinion, buy one PCMCIA Ethernet card, and use it for reinstall !!
16:05 Lin	pcmcia? how I will put pcmcia on my desktops?
16:05 dukez	Lin> or PXE over Wifi exist
16:05 Lin	AFAIK no
16:05 Lin	btw, where the wireless computers lies, there is no network cable
16:05 Lin	just radio waves ;-)
16:06 dukez	ok
16:06 Lin	I was thinking
16:06 Lin	I will create a RED pen drive
16:06 Lin	called : EMERGENCY
16:06 dukez	Lin> lol
16:06 Lin	insert it and REBOOT!
16:07 Lin	it will reinstall the system configure all mount points and the network auth
16:07 Lin	then when a user make some mistake in his system.
16:08 Lin	Break the glass take the pen drive, remove the seal and insert on your computer (on usb port). Press reboot
16:08 Lin	funny manual! ;-)
16:08 dukez	Hey
16:08 Lin	yes
16:08 dukez	You can use PXE bot with wifi,
16:08 Lin	where did you read this?
16:09 Lin	... please ...
16:09 Lin	;-)
16:09 dukez	French forums ....
16:09 dukez	Use a hardware wifi gateway
16:09 Lin	im not french. Is it a *real* information.
16:09 Lin	as a access point?
16:09 dukez	Acticate gateway synch in the bios of desktops
16:09 dukez	And that must works
16:10 Lin	there is no bios on my wifi cards
16:10 Lin	its a dlink g-520
16:10 dukez	ok
16:10 Lin	which card you're talking about?
16:10 Lin	orinoco? cisco?
16:11 dukez	i am looking for an english forum about it
16:12 Lin	please..
16:14 dukez	Lin> your wireless cards doesnt supoort PXE ?
16:14 dukez	Lin> Do you know that ?
16:15 Lin	AFAIK not
16:15 dukez	So this is the bad point
16:15 Lin	I didn't read anything about this at boot time or in card manual
16:15 dukez	Because booting PXE throught wifi or ethernet is the same thing as i read
16:15 Lin	I can send a question to hardware supli
16:15 dukez	Lin> Just try to see if the Computer bios support Network booting
16:15 Lin	yes support
16:16 dukez	Lin> Try to activate it simply and you ll see !
16:16 dukez	Lin> Does your wifi is using DHCP ?
16:16 Lin	yes
16:16 dukez	Lin> The DCHP is made by an appliance ? or a real DHCP3 unix server ?
16:16 Lin	dhcp server
16:16 Lin	linux\
16:17 dukez	cool
16:17 dukez	so just give it a try !
16:17 Lin	I will
16:17 Lin	;-)
16:17 dukez	Try enable network booting
16:17 dukez	and you ll see
16:18 dukez	may the luck be with you !!
16:18 Lin	thakz 4 all help
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16:52 dukez	hey
16:52 dukez	some fai dev are on ?
16:52 dukez	ZO ?
16:52 dukez	OZ ?
16:52 dukez	i got a scratch or 2 fighting with fai :(
16:52 dukez	i mean some advice about install_package and cross arch installation ^
16:57 dukez	!ping oz
17:02 h01ger	dukez, please ask your question - dont "randomly" ping people.. (and esp. without asking your questions..)
17:02 dukez	lol
17:03 dukez	i ma tying to make an i 386 NFSROOT on a AMD64 server.
17:03 dukez	The only problem i have is with the^$ù* install_packages script ! It try to download amd64 arch packges
17:03 dukez	Is there a way to bypass this problem ??
17:05 h01ger	i dont know :) maybe you need to create the nfsroot on i386, tar it and copy it over
17:06 dukez	no, i must create it on the installserver, because i have an installserver that knows how to rebuild itselft throught fai-cd.
17:06 dukez	i am looking for a setarch hack at the time
17:09 dukez	h01ger> do you know if FAI dev team is going to leave the install_packages script for a "better" solution ?
17:12 dukez	h01ger> i hope the setarch will fool install_packages script.
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17:17 h01ger	dukez, if you give us a better solution... ;)
17:17 h01ger	hi nomeata
17:19 nomeata	hi h01ger
17:21 dukez	dukez> Hmmm, i dont know how to handle arch in perl, but in C, you can make a syscall(SYS_personality) to foll the architecture
17:22 dukez	just an idea
17:22 dukez	Using this technique, perhaps can you handle an -arch switch with install_packages :)
17:22 h01ger	dukez, file a wishlist bug then...
17:22 dukez	this is not a bug :) just an evolution
17:22 h01ger	(and i dont think install_packages will be rewritten in c, if only for the fact that it would make the resulting binary arch-dependend, doh.
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17:23 dukez	h01ger> does the fai-multidistrib handle different architecture ?
17:23 h01ger	dukez, wishlist bugs are bugs :)
17:23 h01ger	dukez, multidistri is targeted at multiple distros, not archs :)
17:23 dukez	h01ger> doest u plan to make fai evolved multi arch ? so ?
17:26 dukez	h01ger> perhaps installing install_packge inside the NFSROOT and running it from there thourght a chroot might be a solution to handle multiarch NFSROOT :)
17:26 h01ger	fai is multiarch. it just doesnt work the way you want :-D
17:27 h01ger	dukez, that only works on i386+amd64 and only in one direction...
17:27 dukez	h01ger> i mean by multi arch that fai can cross-arch produce NFSROOT
17:28 dukez	h01ger> and it seems to me that is it not truly the case without handmakde hacks :)
17:29 dukez	but i not a real FAI pro still
17:29 dukez	i just got a quite good lvl )
17:29 h01ger	lvl?
17:29 h01ger	debootstrap cannot setup chroots for other archs, thats the core problem.
17:30 dukez	FALSE !!!!
17:30 dukez	debootstrap --arch !
17:30 dukez	it make it !
17:30 dukez	I use '--arch i386' in my FAI_DEBOOTSTRAP to try to make an i386 NFSROOT on an amd64 machine :)
17:31 h01ger	send patches or file bugs at least
17:31 dukez	surely if i found a workable solution i ll contribute
17:31 oz	h01ger: hm. we did something similar we fiddled with live-package
17:31 dukez	believe me
17:31 dukez	i love fai
17:32 oz	dukez: what exactly does you thing now?
17:32 dukez	install_packages sucks ^^
17:33 oz	it takes the first amd64 client to build the nfsroot an sends it back to the server, or what?
17:33 dukez	i can't i got an auto generated installserver thourgt fai-cd
17:34 dukez	so i'll find a solution to make the i386 NFSROOT from the AMD64, even if i must wrap the make-fai-nfsroot inside a bigger hand made script :)
17:34 dukez	i can't do it cause i got *
17:34 dukez	my make-fai-nfsroot works expect for the last stage : adding NFSROOT class packages :(
17:34 dukez	without any modification to fai 3.1.8 for the moement
17:35 dukez	i ll find a way
17:35 dukez	i hope
17:35 oz	dukez: hehe, I also built a cd doing that
17:35 dukez	that why fai is a great project : you can auto regenerate all your platform with 1 or 2 CD !
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17:48 Lin	hi all!!
17:49 Lin	my fai is complaing about: fai-savelog ssh: command not found (and scp too). Why this happened?
17:50 Lin	in fai nfs I could not find a ssh binary
17:50 Lin	grub either.
17:50 Lin	any tips?
17:51 Lin	I chrooted to nfsroot and installed ssh and grub
17:51 Lin	is it ok?
17:54 dukez	mostly
17:56 Lin	dukez: now my fai client is compaing about: cannot connect to portmap on  local host (why it is trying this?)
17:57 Lin	where fai store the log?
17:57 Lin	now a lot of errors about shell operator error. while mounting
17:58 Lin	[: 93: ==: unexpected operator.
17:58 Lin	is it normal?
18:00 Lin	where can I find failogs?
18:01 Lin	there is anyplace to discover which clients are doing instalations right now?
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19:57 Lin	hi.. how can I set a specific class to be installed on a host (or group of hosts)?
20:14 h01ger	less /usr/share/doc/fai/examples/simple/class/5*
20:14 h01ger	or s/fai/fai-doc/ :)
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21:49 Lin	h01ger: thankz ;-)
21:49 Lin	I have read already easy and smooth
21:49 Lin	h01ger: there is any workaround to install java nonfree ?
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22:38 dukez	Yo all, i found a solution for install_packages to handle multi architecture
22:38 dukez	apt-get -o APT::Architecture="i386" install tcpdump
22:39 dukez	to force architecture :)
22:41 Lin	dukez: hehe dunno.
22:42 Lin	but good anyway
22:42 Lin	;-)
22:43 Lin	dukez: im installing these classes  FAIBASE DHCPC UBUNTU but it wont intalling my kernel. I have to add DEFAULT class or add some kernel?
22:43 Lin	dukez: but the DEMO or SERVEr didn´ t has anything related kernels.
22:47 dukez	no
22:47 Lin	FAIBASE has it.. but my instaled system are without a kernel image..
22:47 dukez	norammy it install the kernel
22:47 Lin	I really dunno why its hapenning
22:48 dukez	FAIBAE must install the kernle
22:48 dukez	LIN you NFSROOT semms broken as i read the channel history
22:48 dukez	a
22:48 Lin	yes.. it seems
22:48 dukez	are you sure you make-fa-nfsroot runned correctly ?
22:49 dukez	are you cross architecture installing ?
22:49 Lin	no i386 only
22:49 dukez	strange
22:49 dukez	after the install in /tmp/fai/software.log
22:49 dukez	check for the inux-image installation
22:49 Lin	i setup to reboot after install
22:50 dukez	did you see it ?
22:50 dukez	dont reboot and heck it via sshing on the serv
22:50 Lin	-IFv right?
22:52 dukez	yes
22:52 dukez	it must not reboot automagically
22:52 dukez	unless you hit a key
22:52 Lin	another thing.. where I setup the /etc/hosts file to be copied to destination system
22:52 Lin	?
22:52 dukez	use Ctrl+C to get the shell
22:52 Lin	but CTRL+C didn't stop the instalation?
22:52 dukez	not at the end
22:53 dukez	read the last message you ll see
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22:53 Lin	ok
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22:53 dukez	can to make a handwritten version of /etc/hosts
22:53 Lin	dukez: I discovered where. ;-)
22:53 Lin	NFSROOT_ETC_HOSTS="10.1.1.203 aptproxy.ibeu.org.br aptproxy"
22:53 dukez	build a script to make it
22:53 dukez	yes
22:53 Lin	ok
22:54 dukez	you need it in configuration
22:54 Lin	reinstaling
22:54 dukez	but this flag is only used in the nfsroot
22:54 Lin	humrum... another thing... my fai isn't logging
22:54 Lin	maybe something with my SSH cert.
22:54 dukez	you haven't settup correctly logserver
22:55 dukez	or perhaps it is using faimond
22:55 dukez	connections
22:55 Lin	and Im having problem to configure HPLIP cause it need cups being configured first.
22:55 dukez	HPLIP : i don't know it ! sry :(
22:55 dukez	i don't kno weerything ^^
22:55 Lin	dukez: hum rum.. there is no way to preinstall something?
22:56 Lin	or re-run the aptitude ugrade just to clean up everything?
22:56 Lin	the scripts fall under fai/scripts/CLASS right?
22:57 Lin	fai/config/scripts/class
22:57 Lin	this is damn good ;-)
22:57 dukez	no
22:57 dukez	yes
22:57 Lin	o?
22:57 Lin	no?
22:58 dukez	ry
22:58 Lin	where then?
22:58 dukez	preinstallation is done throught packages_config
22:58 dukez	configuration throught scripts
22:58 Lin	humrum
22:58 dukez	or with debconf
22:58 Lin	root@arda:/srv/fai/config/package_config# cat UBUNTU
22:58 Lin	PACKAGES aptitude
22:58 Lin	ubuntu-minimal
22:58 Lin	ubuntu-standard
22:58 Lin	ubuntu-desktop
22:58 Lin	as this...
22:58 dukez	debconf-get-selections to see the configuration flags use b the package
22:59 dukez	yes
22:59 dukez	PACKAGES install is better in my opinion
22:59 Lin	cleaner
22:59 dukez	but it is the same thing likely
23:00 Lin	kernel is being fetched
23:00 Lin	right now..
23:00 dukez	and installed ?
23:00 dukez	ok
23:00 Lin	first fetch.
23:00 Lin	;-)
23:01 Lin	fetch finished
23:01 dukez	your prblm perhaps is the bootloader no ?
23:01 Lin	preconfigurin right now.
23:01 Lin	no
23:01 Lin	kernel isn't installed boot loade is
23:01 dukez	you have an empty /boot dir ?
23:01 Lin	yes
23:01 Lin	just /boot/grub/menu.lst
23:01 dukez	strange !!! has the package is fetched, i ll be installed
23:02 dukez	look for packages unpacking bugs so ^^
23:02 Lin	linux-image-generic
23:02 Lin	ok
23:02 Lin	problem iwth sun-java6-jre
23:02 Lin	license could not be presented.. damn.. I want to install this
23:02 dukez	i didn't try it yet, it is new with etch
23:03 dukez	try to debconf it
23:03 Lin	I will try preseed it
23:03 dukez	install it on an other computer
23:03 Lin	wait...
23:03 Lin	please
23:03 dukez	debconf-get-selections /pipe grep sun-java-jre
23:03 dukez	Lin> i must go to bed
23:04 dukez	Lin> i ll help you tomorrow
23:04 Lin	dukez: night
23:04 dukez	Lin> i am at home throug VNS on my compani computer and it is awfully slow ^^
23:04 Lin	want to log on a shell?
23:04 Lin	I have a server ;-)
23:04 Lin	I can create an accont 2 u
23:04 Lin	problems with ssl-cert
23:04 dukez	i can't i am througt a VPN
23:05 Lin	oh.. ok.. I know what is this ;-)
23:05 dukez	i 'll not make 2 bounce to ssh right at this time
23:05 dukez	tomorrow i'll help you for sure
23:05 Lin	gnight
23:05 Lin	sleep well
23:05 MT	sun-java5-bin   shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1    boolean true
23:05 MT	sun-java5-jdk   shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1    boolean true
23:05 MT	sun-java5-jre   shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1    boolean true
23:05 MT	is what you want...
23:05 dukez	at this time, i was lauching make-fai-nfsroot with like hacks to cross build i386 NFSROOT on a AMD64 platform
23:05 Lin	MT: thankz ;-)
23:05 dukez	MT> i was sure of it
23:06 dukez	Lin> paste thiese lines in debconf/my_class
23:06 dukez	with s/5/6/
23:06 dukez	^^
23:06 Lin	;-)
23:06 Lin	ok
23:06 MT	is that in debian already?
23:06 Lin	no
23:06 Lin	ubuntu
23:06 Lin	its desktop
23:06 Lin	not server
23:06 dukez	MT> do you know how to build an i386 NFSROOT on a AMD64 comp ?
23:07 dukez	MT> it is in etch !
23:07 MT	yeah, just found it
23:08 MT	dukez, sorry, no idea...
23:08 dukez	debootstrap is just too slow ^^
23:08 dukez	ok not a prblm
23:08 dukez	i ll make it i am sure :)
23:08 Lin	844 seconds
23:08 Lin	good!! ;-)
23:09 dukez	Lin> so for your kernel ?
23:09 Lin	instalation
23:09 Lin	didn't reboot yet
23:09 dukez	no
23:09 dukez	dont do it
23:09 dukez	just get a shell
23:09 Lin	DAMN!
23:09 Lin	empty
23:09 dukez	and look at /boot
23:09 dukez	mmmmmmmmm
23:09 Lin	root@cyber1:/tmp/target/boot# ls
23:09 Lin	grub  memtest86+.bin
23:09 dukez	grep linux-image /tmp/fai/software.log
23:10 dukez	anything revelant ?
23:10 Lin	install_packages: executing chroot /tmp/target aptitude -R -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" install memtest86+ dhcp3-client grub lilo- linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic cfengine2 cron debconf-utils discover file hdparm jove less linuxlogo nfs-common nscd rdate openssh-client openssh-server strace sysutils tcsh time postfix eject locales console-common pciutils usbutils bzip2 ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standa
23:10 Lin	rd ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-keyring ubuntu-artwork ubuntu-sounds ubuntu-restricted-extras
23:10 Lin	linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-14-generic
23:10 Lin	linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic linux-image-generic
23:10 Lin	Get:792 http://aptproxy.ibeu.org.br feisty/main linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic 2.6.20-14.22 [23.8MB]
23:10 dukez	ls /tmp/target/boot
23:10 Lin	Get:793 http://aptproxy.ibeu.org.br feisty/main linux-image-generic 2.6.20.14.12 [24.3kB]
23:10 Lin	I was on /tmp/target/boot
23:10 Lin	root@cyber1:/tmp/target/boot#  ls /tmp/target/boot
23:10 Lin	grub  memtest86+.bin
23:10 dukez	Lin> nothing saying unpacking ???
23:11 Lin	AFAIK no ;-)
23:11 Lin	why?
23:11 Lin	chrooting to target.
23:11 Lin	dpkg -l linux-image-generic
23:11 Lin	un  linux-image-generic     <none>                  (no description available)
23:11 Lin	omg! this is weird.
23:12 dukez	Unpacking linux-image-2.6.18-4-686-bigmem (from .../linux-image-2.6.18-4-686-big
23:12 dukez	mem_2.6.18.dfsg.1-10~bpo.1_i386.deb) ...
23:13 dukez	i got his
23:13 Lin	not on mine :-(
23:13 dukez	try apt-get install linux-image-686
23:14 dukez	on my servs i was detecting CPU number and memory while i was using kernel from backports.org
23:14 Lin	in the chroot environment: apt-get install linux-image-generic worked
23:15 dukez	and it have installed a kernel in /boot ( chrooted )
23:15 Lin	but it start to remove a lot of things
23:15 dukez	try to put a more specific kernel package inside package_config simply
23:16 dukez	your fai server is also ubuntuu ?
23:16 Lin	yes it is
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23:16 Lin	it try to remove ALL my ubuntu packages
23:16 Lin	the list is too big.
23:17 dukez	loooooooooool
23:17 dukez	strange !
23:17 Lin	appres beforelight bitmap cabextract capplets .... xvncviewer xwd xwininfo xwud
23:17 dukez	fr ?
23:17 Lin	50 lines ;-)
23:17 Lin	fr? me? no .. im Brazilian
23:17 dukez	ok
23:18 dukez	i don't know why it is miss behaving this fai ...
23:18 Lin	neither I
23:18 dukez	check if you dont have package conflict or something like that
23:18 dukez	perhaps cross arch conflict
23:19 Lin	Im checking
23:19 dukez	server is also i386 ?
23:19 Lin	yes
23:19 Lin	beside linux-image dont conflict with anithing except old hotplug
23:19 Lin	and I havent hotplug on my system
23:19 dukez	mmm
23:20 dukez	try an apt-get -f install
23:20 dukez	just to check things perhaps on the chroot :)
23:20 Lin	i have put a reinstall on everything
23:20 Lin	and it accepted
23:20 Lin	without ANY conflicts
23:21 Lin	my dpkg selections are set a lot o deinstalls
23:21 Lin	most them XORG based
23:21 Lin	for sure it will take gnome and everything ubuntu related
23:31 dukez	bye all
23:31 dukez	i go to bed
23:31 dukez	perhaps cya tomoroow
23:32 dukez	i ll be on in 8 hours for 12 hours at least
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